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[Micronet] Another non-berkeley.edu mailing, this time from UCRS

Nils Ohlson
Hi Micronetters,

This morning I received an email, in English and Spanish, ostensibly from UCRS (the Retirement folks) about an upcoming advisory board ballot. The email came from the non-Berkeley.edu domain 
and it landed in my Spam folder.

Consult@berkeley assures me that this is NOT spam. But it does tick me off. Not only does this sort of unannounced non-berkeley.edu or ucop.edu email encourage deviation from best practices by the readers, it could have gone unnoticed or been deleted, leading to the disenfranchisement of many UCRS members.

Am I just grumpy, or is this yet another in a long string of questionable UC-generated emails farmed out in a clumsy way to 3rd party mailers (this time in Texas)? It's one or the other, folks!

Thanks in advance for your wisdom.

-Nils

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Administrative Analyst
U.C. Berkeley College of Chemistry
Business Office
410 Latimer Hall #1460
Berkeley, CA 94720-1460

(510) 642-1325 phone
(510) 642-4313 fax

[hidden email]


 
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Re: [Micronet] Another non-berkeley.edu mailing, this time from UCRS

Beth Muramoto
Nils,

I agree with you. I as well as a couple of other users deleted this message because it was extremely vague and I also mistakenly told people to delete it as well. Given all the rules we're supposed to abide by and that should assist us in not only recognizing, but teaching users how to recognize SPAM or phishing emails, these emails make it really difficult to educate people. Luckily, you took the time to email [hidden email], but is it realistic to instruct people to email consult@berkeley every time a confusing email like this one comes through? I would think that would inundate consult@berkeley.

Bottom line, I'm concerned that I'm misleading people with my confusion.

Beth

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Nils Ohlson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Micronetters,

This morning I received an email, in English and Spanish, ostensibly from UCRS (the Retirement folks) about an upcoming advisory board ballot. The email came from the non-Berkeley.edu domain 
and it landed in my Spam folder.

Consult@berkeley assures me that this is NOT spam. But it does tick me off. Not only does this sort of unannounced non-berkeley.edu or ucop.edu email encourage deviation from best practices by the readers, it could have gone unnoticed or been deleted, leading to the disenfranchisement of many UCRS members.

Am I just grumpy, or is this yet another in a long string of questionable UC-generated emails farmed out in a clumsy way to 3rd party mailers (this time in Texas)? It's one or the other, folks!

Thanks in advance for your wisdom.

-Nils

--
Nils Ohlson
Administrative Analyst
U.C. Berkeley College of Chemistry
Business Office
410 Latimer Hall #1460
Berkeley, CA 94720-1460

<a href="tel:%28510%29%20642-1325" value="+15106421325" target="_blank">(510) 642-1325 phone
<a href="tel:%28510%29%20642-4313" value="+15106424313" target="_blank">(510) 642-4313 fax

[hidden email]



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Phone:  (510) 643-0203 
Fax:  (510) 643-6239

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                            -Emerson

This is the essence of forgiveness. You can't change what happened but you can make sure it doesn't have the power to prevent you from being happy tomorrow.
                           
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Re: [Micronet] Another non-berkeley.edu mailing, this time from UCRS

Christopher Brooks
I received on from travel at Berkeley today as well, which I sent to security.

The response included this text:
[Note: ISP does not routinely respond to correspondence on tickets
that are concerned only with the receipt of phishing attacks or spam].
:-/

I did propose that large lists be moderated until the policy is in place.

Also, I did propose that people that send email like this operate a booth for a day during lunch about the hazards of spear fishing.

_Christopher



On 5/19/15 1:50 PM, Beth Muramoto wrote:
Nils,

I agree with you. I as well as a couple of other users deleted this message because it was extremely vague and I also mistakenly told people to delete it as well. Given all the rules we're supposed to abide by and that should assist us in not only recognizing, but teaching users how to recognize SPAM or phishing emails, these emails make it really difficult to educate people. Luckily, you took the time to email [hidden email], but is it realistic to instruct people to email consult@berkeley every time a confusing email like this one comes through? I would think that would inundate consult@berkeley.

Bottom line, I'm concerned that I'm misleading people with my confusion.

Beth

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Nils Ohlson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Micronetters,

This morning I received an email, in English and Spanish, ostensibly from UCRS (the Retirement folks) about an upcoming advisory board ballot. The email came from the non-Berkeley.edu domain 
and it landed in my Spam folder.

Consult@berkeley assures me that this is NOT spam. But it does tick me off. Not only does this sort of unannounced non-berkeley.edu or ucop.edu email encourage deviation from best practices by the readers, it could have gone unnoticed or been deleted, leading to the disenfranchisement of many UCRS members.

Am I just grumpy, or is this yet another in a long string of questionable UC-generated emails farmed out in a clumsy way to 3rd party mailers (this time in Texas)? It's one or the other, folks!

Thanks in advance for your wisdom.

-Nils

--
Nils Ohlson
Administrative Analyst
U.C. Berkeley College of Chemistry
Business Office
410 Latimer Hall #1460
Berkeley, CA 94720-1460

<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%28510%29%20642-1325" value="+15106421325" target="_blank">(510) 642-1325 phone
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%28510%29%20642-4313" value="+15106424313" target="_blank">(510) 642-4313 fax

[hidden email]



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Beth Muramoto
Computer Resource Specialist
Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
Phone:  (510) 643-0203 
Fax:  (510) 643-6239

“Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities have crept in – forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day. You shall begin it serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense.”
                            -Emerson

This is the essence of forgiveness. You can't change what happened but you can make sure it doesn't have the power to prevent you from being happy tomorrow.
                           
                             -Paul Boese

“Kind words do not cost much yet they accomplish much.” 

                            -Blaise Pascal


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Re: [Micronet] Another non-berkeley.edu mailing, this time from UCRS

Graham Patterson
In reply to this post by Nils Ohlson

Let's see:

Inconsistent use of HTTP and Http, displayed links are different from
the actual links, no validation from a verifiable source (CalMessages,
HR web site), unexpected content (how many UCRS members knew an election
was pending?).

Nothing confusing about that at all, especially since we had a phishing
test last week. 8-)

On the other hand, ucnet.universityofcalifornia.edu is (or should be) a
recognized UC site, and drilling down to the candidate statements did
not take long, using the email as a guide.


Graham



On 5/19/15 1:38 PM, Nils Ohlson wrote:

> Hi Micronetters,
>
> This morning I received an email, in English and Spanish, ostensibly
> from UCRS (the Retirement folks) about an upcoming advisory board
> ballot. The email came from the non-Berkeley.edu domain
> "[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>"
> and it landed in my Spam folder.
>
> Consult@berkeley assures me that this is NOT spam. But it does tick me
> off. Not only does this sort of unannounced non-berkeley.edu
> <http://non-berkeley.edu> or ucop.edu <http://ucop.edu> email encourage
> deviation from best practices by the readers, it could have gone
> unnoticed or been deleted, leading to the disenfranchisement of many
> UCRS members.
>
> Am I just grumpy, or is this yet another in a long string of
> questionable UC-generated emails farmed out in a clumsy way to 3rd party
> mailers (this time in Texas)? It's one or the other, folks!
>
> Thanks in advance for your wisdom.
>
> -Nils
>
> --
> Nils Ohlson
> Administrative Analyst
> U.C. Berkeley College of Chemistry
> Business Office
> 410 Latimer Hall #1460
> Berkeley, CA 94720-1460
>
> (510) 642-1325 phone
> (510) 642-4313 fax
>
> [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>
>
>
>  
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Re: [Micronet] Another non-berkeley.edu mailing, this time from UCRS

Bernie Rossi
Hi all:

Yes, we (the bConnected team) agree that this email was significantly more phish-y or spam-y than it might have been and we have escalated the issue to representatives at UCOP.

Thanks

Bernie

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Graham Patterson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Let's see:

Inconsistent use of HTTP and Http, displayed links are different from
the actual links, no validation from a verifiable source (CalMessages,
HR web site), unexpected content (how many UCRS members knew an election
was pending?).

Nothing confusing about that at all, especially since we had a phishing
test last week. 8-)

On the other hand, ucnet.universityofcalifornia.edu is (or should be) a
recognized UC site, and drilling down to the candidate statements did
not take long, using the email as a guide.


Graham



On 5/19/15 1:38 PM, Nils Ohlson wrote:
> Hi Micronetters,
>
> This morning I received an email, in English and Spanish, ostensibly
> from UCRS (the Retirement folks) about an upcoming advisory board
> ballot. The email came from the non-Berkeley.edu domain
> "[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>"
> and it landed in my Spam folder.
>
> Consult@berkeley assures me that this is NOT spam. But it does tick me
> off. Not only does this sort of unannounced non-berkeley.edu
> <http://non-berkeley.edu> or ucop.edu <http://ucop.edu> email encourage
> deviation from best practices by the readers, it could have gone
> unnoticed or been deleted, leading to the disenfranchisement of many
> UCRS members.
>
> Am I just grumpy, or is this yet another in a long string of
> questionable UC-generated emails farmed out in a clumsy way to 3rd party
> mailers (this time in Texas)? It's one or the other, folks!
>
> Thanks in advance for your wisdom.
>
> -Nils
>
> --
> Nils Ohlson
> Administrative Analyst
> U.C. Berkeley College of Chemistry
> Business Office
> 410 Latimer Hall #1460
> Berkeley, CA 94720-1460
>
> <a href="tel:%28510%29%20642-1325" value="+15106421325">(510) 642-1325 phone
> <a href="tel:%28510%29%20642-4313" value="+15106424313">(510) 642-4313 fax
>
> [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>
>
>
>
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