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[Micronet] Happy Holidays to all and one last question to pose for 2015 from me

Beth Muramoto
Happy Holidays to everyone! Thank you for another year of wonderful support and learning opportunities. As with every year, I have been eternally grateful for the knowledge that I have shamelessly mined from all of you and I appreciate every response I have received without recrimination no matter how ridiculously obvious my question was. I wish you a warm and happy (hopefully stress-free and restful) holidays with family and friends and a fantastic start to 2016.

I leave you with one last really obvious question and "poll".

I am SICK of Apple Mail and its irritating quirks, but for most users who have multiple email accounts, they need a client that allows them to see and access multiple in-boxes, sent-boxes etc. without having to log into each account.

I admit that I have been out of touch with what's available, if anything, or what features are contained in Outlook and Thunderbird or other clients that have been around for awhile so once again I am seeking sage advice and recommendations for hopefully other options than Apple Mail.

As always, any and all suggestions are appreciated.

Thank you all again.

Beth

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Computer Resource Specialist
Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
Phone:  (510) 643-0203 
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“Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities have crept in – forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day. You shall begin it serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense.”
                            -Emerson

This is the essence of forgiveness. You can't change what happened but you can make sure it doesn't have the power to prevent you from being happy tomorrow.
                           
                             -Paul Boese

“Kind words do not cost much yet they accomplish much.” 

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Re: [Micronet] Happy Holidays to all and one last question to pose for 2015 from me

Jon Forrest-3


On 12/22/2015 10:42 AM, Beth Muramoto wrote:

> I am SICK of Apple Mail and its irritating quirks, but for most users
> who have multiple email accounts, they need a client that allows them to
> see and access multiple in-boxes, sent-boxes etc. without having to log
> into each account.

I've been using Thunderbird for years with multiple accounts. My
credentials are stored on the client so I don't have to explicitly
login to each account after the first time.

Check it out.

Jon Forrest
UCB (ret.)


 
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Re: [Micronet] Happy Holidays to all and one last question to pose for 2015 from me

Sharon K. Goetz
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Mozilla is cutting Thunderbird loose: "In the long run, Thunderbird needs to rely on our users for support, and not expect to be subsidized by revenue from Firefox" (https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2015/12/thunderbird-active-daily-inquiries-surpass-10-million/). What that may mean isn't clear yet.

Thunderbird does work well (much better than it did 5-8 years ago) with multiple mailboxes and identities/roles.

Happy holidays--
Sharon

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On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Beth Muramoto <[hidden email]> wrote:
Happy Holidays to everyone! Thank you for another year of wonderful support and learning opportunities. As with every year, I have been eternally grateful for the knowledge that I have shamelessly mined from all of you and I appreciate every response I have received without recrimination no matter how ridiculously obvious my question was. I wish you a warm and happy (hopefully stress-free and restful) holidays with family and friends and a fantastic start to 2016.

I leave you with one last really obvious question and "poll".

I am SICK of Apple Mail and its irritating quirks, but for most users who have multiple email accounts, they need a client that allows them to see and access multiple in-boxes, sent-boxes etc. without having to log into each account.

I admit that I have been out of touch with what's available, if anything, or what features are contained in Outlook and Thunderbird or other clients that have been around for awhile so once again I am seeking sage advice and recommendations for hopefully other options than Apple Mail.

As always, any and all suggestions are appreciated.

Thank you all again.

Beth


 
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Re: [Micronet] Happy Holidays to all and one last question to pose for 2015 from me

Karin Hansen
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On December 22, 2015 at 1:43:01 PM, Beth Muramoto ([hidden email]) wrote:
I admit that I have been out of touch with what's available, if anything, or what features are contained in Outlook and Thunderbird or other clients that have been around for awhile so once again I am seeking sage advice and recommendations for hopefully other options than Apple Mail.


I use a program called Airmail 2 (from the App store).  It isn’t free, but I find it much better than Mail.  I use it for my bMail account and my personal Gmail account.  I do recommend turning off the “Advanced Graphics” option in the preferences for stability.

Karin


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Re: [Micronet] Happy Holidays to all and one last question to pose for 2015 from me

Steve McConnell
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Mozilla kinda cut Thunderbird loose three and a half years ago, handing most development over to a volunteer community in July 2012 (Tech Crunch: So, That’s It For Thunderbird). And while there have been some changes from the user perspective, it continues to be a very reliable cross-platform email client, providing the multi-account access and add-on features Beth was looking for without the bloat and inflexibility of the big corporate versions. I've used it for more than a decade with dozens of separate accounts (work, departmental, SPA and personal all intermingled), and it has met my needs well. I'm hoping this latest don't-call-it-a-divorce won't materially affect that, either.

~ Steve

Steve McConnell
Director, web & digital media
UC Berkeley College of Engineering
(510) 642-4392  |  312 McLaughlin Hall
Berkeley
          Engineering



On 12/22/2015 10:47 AM, Sharon K. Goetz wrote:
Mozilla is cutting Thunderbird loose: "In the long run, Thunderbird needs to rely on our users for support, and not expect to be subsidized by revenue from Firefox" (https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2015/12/thunderbird-active-daily-inquiries-surpass-10-million/). What that may mean isn't clear yet.

Thunderbird does work well (much better than it did 5-8 years ago) with multiple mailboxes and identities/roles.

Happy holidays--
Sharon

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Digital Publications Manager, Mark Twain Papers & Project
http://www.marktwainproject.org/ http://bancroft.berkeley.edu/MTP/
http://twitter.com/mtpo


On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Beth Muramoto <[hidden email]> wrote:
Happy Holidays to everyone! Thank you for another year of wonderful support and learning opportunities. As with every year, I have been eternally grateful for the knowledge that I have shamelessly mined from all of you and I appreciate every response I have received without recrimination no matter how ridiculously obvious my question was. I wish you a warm and happy (hopefully stress-free and restful) holidays with family and friends and a fantastic start to 2016.

I leave you with one last really obvious question and "poll".

I am SICK of Apple Mail and its irritating quirks, but for most users who have multiple email accounts, they need a client that allows them to see and access multiple in-boxes, sent-boxes etc. without having to log into each account.

I admit that I have been out of touch with what's available, if anything, or what features are contained in Outlook and Thunderbird or other clients that have been around for awhile so once again I am seeking sage advice and recommendations for hopefully other options than Apple Mail.

As always, any and all suggestions are appreciated.

Thank you all again.

Beth



 
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Re: [Micronet] Happy Holidays to all and one last question to pose for 2015 from me

Ryan Lovett-2
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On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Beth Muramoto <[hidden email]> wrote:
but for most users who have multiple email accounts, they need a client that allows them to see and access multiple in-boxes, sent-boxes etc. without having to log into each account.

Technically, users are still logging into each account in Mail, Thunderbird, or Outlook, but they're accessing them from within one window.

I use Google Chrome + multiple profiles + GMail and I switch between the profile windows using Command-Esc.

Ryan

 
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Re: [Micronet] Happy Holidays to all and one last question to pose for 2015 from me

Graham Patterson
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I am currently running Thunderbird to monitor my personal bMail account,
a personal Gmail account, and two SPA accounts.

I use Thunderbird to clean out some folders where I log system notices -
say everything older than 365 days - and do some sorting that is not
done at the bMail level.


But it is a bit of a resource hog - it is currently using 745M. On the
other hand, I can also load my bCal in another tab, which means I am not
using mu main browser for that.

I am also system agnostic, so being able to configure Mac, Windows, and
Linux clients similarly is a nice option.

It may be that TB suffers from Mozilla taking less interest, but so far,
so good.

Graham


On 12/22/15 11:16 AM, Steve McConnell wrote:

> Mozilla kinda cut Thunderbird loose three and a half years ago, handing
> most development over to a volunteer community in July 2012 (Tech
> Crunch: So, That’s It For Thunderbird
> <http://techcrunch.com/2012/07/06/so-thats-it-for-thunderbird/>). And
> while there have been some changes from the user perspective, it
> continues to be a very reliable cross-platform email client, providing
> the multi-account access and add-on features Beth was looking for
> without the bloat and inflexibility of the big corporate versions. I've
> used it for more than a decade with dozens of separate accounts (work,
> departmental, SPA and personal all intermingled), and it has met my
> needs well. I'm hoping this latest don't-call-it-a-divorce won't
> materially affect that, either.
>
> ~ Steve
>
> *Steve McConnell*
> Director, web & digital media
> UC Berkeley College of Engineering <http://engineering.berkeley.edu>
> (510) 642-4392  |  312 McLaughlin Hall
> Berkeley Engineering <http://engineering.berkeley.edu>
>
>
>
> On 12/22/2015 10:47 AM, Sharon K. Goetz wrote:
>> Mozilla is cutting Thunderbird loose: "In the long run, Thunderbird
>> needs to rely on our users for support, and not expect to be
>> subsidized by revenue from Firefox"
>> (<https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2015/12/thunderbird-active-daily-inquiries-surpass-10-million/>https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2015/12/thunderbird-active-daily-inquiries-surpass-10-million/).
>> What that may mean isn't clear yet.
>>
>> Thunderbird does work well (much better than it did 5-8 years ago)
>> with multiple mailboxes and identities/roles.
>>
>> Happy holidays--
>> Sharon
>>
>> --
>> Digital Publications Manager, Mark Twain Papers & Project
>> http://www.marktwainproject.org/
>> <http://bancroft.berkeley.edu/MTP/>http://bancroft.berkeley.edu/MTP/
>> http://twitter.com/mtpo
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Beth Muramoto <[hidden email]
>> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>>     Happy Holidays to everyone! Thank you for another year of
>>     wonderful support and learning opportunities. As with every year,
>>     I have been eternally grateful for the knowledge that I have
>>     shamelessly mined from all of you and I appreciate every response
>>     I have received without recrimination no matter how ridiculously
>>     obvious my question was. I wish you a warm and happy (hopefully
>>     stress-free and restful) holidays with family and friends and a
>>     fantastic start to 2016.
>>
>>     I leave you with one last really obvious question and "poll".
>>
>>     I am SICK of Apple Mail and its irritating quirks, but for most
>>     users who have multiple email accounts, they need a client that
>>     allows them to see and access multiple in-boxes, sent-boxes etc.
>>     without having to log into each account.
>>
>>     I admit that I have been out of touch with what's available, if
>>     anything, or what features are contained in Outlook and
>>     Thunderbird or other clients that have been around for awhile so
>>     once again I am seeking sage advice and recommendations for
>>     hopefully other options than Apple Mail.
>>
>>     As always, any and all suggestions are appreciated.
>>
>>     Thank you all again.
>>
>>     Beth
>>
>>
>>
>>  
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Re: [Micronet] Happy Holidays to all and one last question to pose for 2015 from me

Bruce Satow
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The nice thing about Thunderbird is that it supports multiple email accounts in separate areas, it is IMAP ready, organization and filing is traditional and linear, you can filter email to trash or any other folder you wish to make, plus it is cross platform across MacOS, Windows, and Linux. What I worry, is that they will try to copy outlook or Apple Mail and ruin it's elegant simplicity and function.  Simple is better and Thunderbird delivers. 

On 12/22/2015 10:42 AM, Beth Muramoto wrote:
Happy Holidays to everyone! Thank you for another year of wonderful support and learning opportunities. As with every year, I have been eternally grateful for the knowledge that I have shamelessly mined from all of you and I appreciate every response I have received without recrimination no matter how ridiculously obvious my question was. I wish you a warm and happy (hopefully stress-free and restful) holidays with family and friends and a fantastic start to 2016.

I leave you with one last really obvious question and "poll".

I am SICK of Apple Mail and its irritating quirks, but for most users who have multiple email accounts, they need a client that allows them to see and access multiple in-boxes, sent-boxes etc. without having to log into each account.

I admit that I have been out of touch with what's available, if anything, or what features are contained in Outlook and Thunderbird or other clients that have been around for awhile so once again I am seeking sage advice and recommendations for hopefully other options than Apple Mail.

As always, any and all suggestions are appreciated.

Thank you all again.

Beth

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Beth Muramoto
Computer Resource Specialist
Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
Phone:  (510) 643-0203 
Fax:  (510) 643-6239

“Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities have crept in – forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day. You shall begin it serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense.”
                            -Emerson

This is the essence of forgiveness. You can't change what happened but you can make sure it doesn't have the power to prevent you from being happy tomorrow.
                           
                             -Paul Boese

“Kind words do not cost much yet they accomplish much.” 

                            -Blaise Pascal


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