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[Micronet] Importing Eudora email/mailboxes with attachments into Apple Mail

Beth Muramoto
We still have users who have been using Eudora as an archive resource for email legacies that go back to the 1990's. I'm going to be upgrading them to Mountain Lion which will make Eudora cease to function. We've been using Apple Mail as a way to import Eudora email so that they are still accessible in newer OSes, but after importing one person's email to Apple Mail, I've noticed that the attachments didn't follow along.

I know about Eudora Mailbox Cleaner, but have heard it's haphazard at best.

Does anyone have any experience or thoughts on how to make sure that the attachments import over? If I can't do this effectively, it will make upgrading to Mountain Lion just about impossible for some users to accept.

Any thoughts are welcome.

Beth

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Beth Muramoto
Computer Resource Specialist
Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
Phone:  (510) 643-0203 
Fax:  (510) 643-6239

“Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities have crept in – forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day. You shall begin it serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense.”

                            -Emerson

This is the essence of forgiveness. You can't change what happened but you can make sure it doesn't have the power to prevent you from being happy tomorrow.
                           
                             -Paul Boese

“Kind words do not cost much yet they accomplish much.” 

                            -Blaise Pascal


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Re: [Micronet] Importing Eudora email/mailboxes with attachments into Apple Mail

Anthony Roybal
Hi Beth,

A year or so ago I used Eudora Mailbox Cleaner and converted a couple of friend’s Eudora archives to Mail without any problems, at least without any I remember. :) 

I ran across this article on TidBITS. I scanned through it and it looks pretty comprehensive. Good luck!

"Converting Email from Eudora: Why I No Longer Live at the P.O.”
Adam C. Engst

Regards,
Tony

On Mar 4, 2014, at 3:30 PM, Beth J MURAMOTO <[hidden email]> wrote:

We still have users who have been using Eudora as an archive resource for email legacies that go back to the 1990's. I'm going to be upgrading them to Mountain Lion which will make Eudora cease to function. We've been using Apple Mail as a way to import Eudora email so that they are still accessible in newer OSes, but after importing one person's email to Apple Mail, I've noticed that the attachments didn't follow along.

I know about Eudora Mailbox Cleaner, but have heard it's haphazard at best.

Does anyone have any experience or thoughts on how to make sure that the attachments import over? If I can't do this effectively, it will make upgrading to Mountain Lion just about impossible for some users to accept.

Any thoughts are welcome.

Beth

--
***********************************************
Beth Muramoto
Computer Resource Specialist
Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
Phone:  (510) 643-0203 
Fax:  (510) 643-6239

“Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities have crept in – forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day. You shall begin it serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense.”

                            -Emerson

This is the essence of forgiveness. You can't change what happened but you can make sure it doesn't have the power to prevent you from being happy tomorrow.
                           
                             -Paul Boese

“Kind words do not cost much yet they accomplish much.” 

                            -Blaise Pascal


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Re: [Micronet] Importing Eudora email/mailboxes with attachments into Apple Mail

Guy D. VINSON
Just a thought... I would try importing Eudora in to Outlook, exporting the file, the .pst, and importing into Apple Mail. I had to move a person's Outlook express (PC) into Apple Mail and I went through Outlook. I have not tested this and this sort of stuff is the reason I was so grateful Campus went to google. I believe Outlook will import attachment from the Eudora Attachments but it has been a while since I had to deal with Eudora (Thank god)

Guy Vinson
510-842-7199


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:48 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Beth,

A year or so ago I used Eudora Mailbox Cleaner and converted a couple of friend’s Eudora archives to Mail without any problems, at least without any I remember. :) 

I ran across this article on TidBITS. I scanned through it and it looks pretty comprehensive. Good luck!

"Converting Email from Eudora: Why I No Longer Live at the P.O.”
Adam C. Engst

Regards,
Tony

On Mar 4, 2014, at 3:30 PM, Beth J MURAMOTO <[hidden email]> wrote:

We still have users who have been using Eudora as an archive resource for email legacies that go back to the 1990's. I'm going to be upgrading them to Mountain Lion which will make Eudora cease to function. We've been using Apple Mail as a way to import Eudora email so that they are still accessible in newer OSes, but after importing one person's email to Apple Mail, I've noticed that the attachments didn't follow along.

I know about Eudora Mailbox Cleaner, but have heard it's haphazard at best.

Does anyone have any experience or thoughts on how to make sure that the attachments import over? If I can't do this effectively, it will make upgrading to Mountain Lion just about impossible for some users to accept.

Any thoughts are welcome.

Beth

--
***********************************************
Beth Muramoto
Computer Resource Specialist
Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
Phone:  (510) 643-0203 
Fax:  (510) 643-6239

“Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities have crept in – forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day. You shall begin it serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense.”

                            -Emerson

This is the essence of forgiveness. You can't change what happened but you can make sure it doesn't have the power to prevent you from being happy tomorrow.
                           
                             -Paul Boese

“Kind words do not cost much yet they accomplish much.” 

                            -Blaise Pascal


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Re: [Micronet] Importing Eudora email/mailboxes with attachments into Apple Mail

Tom Salinaro
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You could always move everything to a bmail account. It's kind of slow, but you wouldn't have to worry about email client problems in the future.


On 03/04/2014 03:30 PM, Beth J MURAMOTO wrote:
We still have users who have been using Eudora as an archive resource for email legacies that go back to the 1990's. I'm going to be upgrading them to Mountain Lion which will make Eudora cease to function. We've been using Apple Mail as a way to import Eudora email so that they are still accessible in newer OSes, but after importing one person's email to Apple Mail, I've noticed that the attachments didn't follow along.

I know about Eudora Mailbox Cleaner, but have heard it's haphazard at best.

Does anyone have any experience or thoughts on how to make sure that the attachments import over? If I can't do this effectively, it will make upgrading to Mountain Lion just about impossible for some users to accept.

Any thoughts are welcome.

Beth

--
***********************************************
Beth Muramoto
Computer Resource Specialist
Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
Phone:  (510) 643-0203 
Fax:  (510) 643-6239

“Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities have crept in – forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day. You shall begin it serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense.”

                            -Emerson

This is the essence of forgiveness. You can't change what happened but you can make sure it doesn't have the power to prevent you from being happy tomorrow.
                           
                             -Paul Boese

“Kind words do not cost much yet they accomplish much.” 

                            -Blaise Pascal


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Re: [Micronet] Importing Eudora email/mailboxes with attachments into Apple Mail

Beth Muramoto
Tom,

That would actually be ideal, but there are a lot of folders and emails dating back to the '90's along with their attachments so I don't think the allotted space on bMail would be enough to handle it. Most users who are using bMail now would love the availability of these emails on bMail and to access them anytime and anywhere. If that ever becomes an option, it would be the perfect solution. 

For now, we have to find a way to maintain these archives. 

Beth 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 4, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Tom Salinaro <[hidden email]> wrote:

You could always move everything to a bmail account. It's kind of slow, but you wouldn't have to worry about email client problems in the future.


On 03/04/2014 03:30 PM, Beth J MURAMOTO wrote:
We still have users who have been using Eudora as an archive resource for email legacies that go back to the 1990's. I'm going to be upgrading them to Mountain Lion which will make Eudora cease to function. We've been using Apple Mail as a way to import Eudora email so that they are still accessible in newer OSes, but after importing one person's email to Apple Mail, I've noticed that the attachments didn't follow along.

I know about Eudora Mailbox Cleaner, but have heard it's haphazard at best.

Does anyone have any experience or thoughts on how to make sure that the attachments import over? If I can't do this effectively, it will make upgrading to Mountain Lion just about impossible for some users to accept.

Any thoughts are welcome.

Beth

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***********************************************
Beth Muramoto
Computer Resource Specialist
Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
Phone:  (510) 643-0203 
Fax:  (510) 643-6239

“Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities have crept in – forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day. You shall begin it serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense.”

                            -Emerson

This is the essence of forgiveness. You can't change what happened but you can make sure it doesn't have the power to prevent you from being happy tomorrow.
                           
                             -Paul Boese

“Kind words do not cost much yet they accomplish much.” 

                            -Blaise Pascal


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Re: [Micronet] Importing Eudora email/mailboxes with attachments into Apple Mail

Tom Salinaro
Maybe just create as many departmental accounts as is needed.

On 03/04/2014 08:30 PM, Beth J MURAMOTO wrote:
Tom,

That would actually be ideal, but there are a lot of folders and emails dating back to the '90's along with their attachments so I don't think the allotted space on bMail would be enough to handle it. Most users who are using bMail now would love the availability of these emails on bMail and to access them anytime and anywhere. If that ever becomes an option, it would be the perfect solution. 

For now, we have to find a way to maintain these archives. 

Beth 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 4, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Tom Salinaro <[hidden email]> wrote:

You could always move everything to a bmail account. It's kind of slow, but you wouldn't have to worry about email client problems in the future.


On 03/04/2014 03:30 PM, Beth J MURAMOTO wrote:
We still have users who have been using Eudora as an archive resource for email legacies that go back to the 1990's. I'm going to be upgrading them to Mountain Lion which will make Eudora cease to function. We've been using Apple Mail as a way to import Eudora email so that they are still accessible in newer OSes, but after importing one person's email to Apple Mail, I've noticed that the attachments didn't follow along.

I know about Eudora Mailbox Cleaner, but have heard it's haphazard at best.

Does anyone have any experience or thoughts on how to make sure that the attachments import over? If I can't do this effectively, it will make upgrading to Mountain Lion just about impossible for some users to accept.

Any thoughts are welcome.

Beth

--
***********************************************
Beth Muramoto
Computer Resource Specialist
Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
Phone:  (510) 643-0203 
Fax:  (510) 643-6239

“Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities have crept in – forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day. You shall begin it serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense.”

                            -Emerson

This is the essence of forgiveness. You can't change what happened but you can make sure it doesn't have the power to prevent you from being happy tomorrow.
                           
                             -Paul Boese

“Kind words do not cost much yet they accomplish much.” 

                            -Blaise Pascal


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Re: [Micronet] Importing Eudora email/mailboxes with attachments into Apple Mail

Beth Muramoto
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Thanks to everyone for their help, feedback and experiences on all the possible angles to take with this and especially for the reassurances on using Eudora Mailbox Cleaner. They were all invaluable as I convert those Eudora users. It's great to have an "arsenal" of things to watch out for and prepare for going in in order to avoid any major "setbacks".

My teeny little soapbox moment:

To be honest, I wish we could find some way of importing these kinds of archives into bMail or in a format where people could "carry" these archives around and accessible in the cloud (confidential items excluded). One of the "complaints" for a lot of people here and what keeps more people from changing over to bMail is this archive access ability. So much of everyone's work is an email trail and though it seems like we'd never delve into something from 1999 or earlier, I know a lot of people, especially people who work with contracts and grants where a "history" through email is essential and can't be lost or inaccessible, who can't conceive of not being able to access those trails at a moment's notice.

I know it's not as simple as that what with confidential and other more sensitive information that shouldn't be available so readily or easily, but I can sympathize with the resistance. Like it or not, our emails are the virtual filing cabinets of our work lives.


Thanks again for listening to my soapbox. Not seeking easy answers or even to rant, just wanted to share the frustration of one IT support person. I admit that maybe I should have handled this "dependence" better in anticipation of these kinds of inevitable changes. Plus, guilty admission here: Though I let it go when it was no longer supported by campus, I'm one of the many who misses Eudora and a lot of its really handy features and powerful search.

Thanks  again most of all for all your assistance. Once again, you've really helped me to develop strategies and have likely saved me from potential screw ups. I always appreciate it.

Beth


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Beth J MURAMOTO <[hidden email]> wrote:
We still have users who have been using Eudora as an archive resource for email legacies that go back to the 1990's. I'm going to be upgrading them to Mountain Lion which will make Eudora cease to function. We've been using Apple Mail as a way to import Eudora email so that they are still accessible in newer OSes, but after importing one person's email to Apple Mail, I've noticed that the attachments didn't follow along.

I know about Eudora Mailbox Cleaner, but have heard it's haphazard at best.

Does anyone have any experience or thoughts on how to make sure that the attachments import over? If I can't do this effectively, it will make upgrading to Mountain Lion just about impossible for some users to accept.

Any thoughts are welcome.

Beth

--
***********************************************
Beth Muramoto
Computer Resource Specialist
Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
Phone:  (510) 643-0203 
Fax:  (510) 643-6239

“Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities have crept in – forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day. You shall begin it serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense.”

                            -Emerson

This is the essence of forgiveness. You can't change what happened but you can make sure it doesn't have the power to prevent you from being happy tomorrow.
                           
                             -Paul Boese

“Kind words do not cost much yet they accomplish much.” 

                            -Blaise Pascal


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Beth Muramoto
Computer Resource Specialist
Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
Phone:  (510) 643-0203 
Fax:  (510) 643-6239

“Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities have crept in – forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day. You shall begin it serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense.”

                            -Emerson

This is the essence of forgiveness. You can't change what happened but you can make sure it doesn't have the power to prevent you from being happy tomorrow.
                           
                             -Paul Boese

“Kind words do not cost much yet they accomplish much.” 

                            -Blaise Pascal


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Re: [Micronet] Importing Eudora email/mailboxes with attachments into Apple Mail

Guy D. VINSON
Nothing wrong with soap boxes... lets you see over the crowd. When Eudora stopped being supported on campus I switched the people I was supporting over to Thunderbird. I believe Thunderbird will support the transfer of attachments as long as the Eudora attachments folder hasn't been moved to some other location other than the normal location. Currently Thunderbird is supported on the latest versions of the Mac OS. Compacting the mail boxes in Eudora was necessary to help the process. I have always disliked apple mail for some reason so have avoided it when I could. Getting Eudora moved over to Thunderbird would allow the long term storage of mail for your client. I used Thunderbird as the storage client for bmail but would use the web interface to actively read and respond to mail. Before bmail about half my time was taken up with one email issue or another. 

When I need to archive something from email that I think I will need in the future I copy the message to Evernote (amazing how little email falls into that category) making it much easier to find. 

Guy Vinson
510-842-7199


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Beth J MURAMOTO <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks to everyone for their help, feedback and experiences on all the possible angles to take with this and especially for the reassurances on using Eudora Mailbox Cleaner. They were all invaluable as I convert those Eudora users. It's great to have an "arsenal" of things to watch out for and prepare for going in in order to avoid any major "setbacks".

My teeny little soapbox moment:

To be honest, I wish we could find some way of importing these kinds of archives into bMail or in a format where people could "carry" these archives around and accessible in the cloud (confidential items excluded). One of the "complaints" for a lot of people here and what keeps more people from changing over to bMail is this archive access ability. So much of everyone's work is an email trail and though it seems like we'd never delve into something from 1999 or earlier, I know a lot of people, especially people who work with contracts and grants where a "history" through email is essential and can't be lost or inaccessible, who can't conceive of not being able to access those trails at a moment's notice.

I know it's not as simple as that what with confidential and other more sensitive information that shouldn't be available so readily or easily, but I can sympathize with the resistance. Like it or not, our emails are the virtual filing cabinets of our work lives.


Thanks again for listening to my soapbox. Not seeking easy answers or even to rant, just wanted to share the frustration of one IT support person. I admit that maybe I should have handled this "dependence" better in anticipation of these kinds of inevitable changes. Plus, guilty admission here: Though I let it go when it was no longer supported by campus, I'm one of the many who misses Eudora and a lot of its really handy features and powerful search.

Thanks  again most of all for all your assistance. Once again, you've really helped me to develop strategies and have likely saved me from potential screw ups. I always appreciate it.

Beth


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Beth J MURAMOTO <[hidden email]> wrote:
We still have users who have been using Eudora as an archive resource for email legacies that go back to the 1990's. I'm going to be upgrading them to Mountain Lion which will make Eudora cease to function. We've been using Apple Mail as a way to import Eudora email so that they are still accessible in newer OSes, but after importing one person's email to Apple Mail, I've noticed that the attachments didn't follow along.

I know about Eudora Mailbox Cleaner, but have heard it's haphazard at best.

Does anyone have any experience or thoughts on how to make sure that the attachments import over? If I can't do this effectively, it will make upgrading to Mountain Lion just about impossible for some users to accept.

Any thoughts are welcome.

Beth

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Beth Muramoto
Computer Resource Specialist
Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
Phone:  (510) 643-0203 
Fax:  (510) 643-6239

“Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities have crept in – forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day. You shall begin it serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense.”

                            -Emerson

This is the essence of forgiveness. You can't change what happened but you can make sure it doesn't have the power to prevent you from being happy tomorrow.
                           
                             -Paul Boese

“Kind words do not cost much yet they accomplish much.” 

                            -Blaise Pascal


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Beth Muramoto
Computer Resource Specialist
Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
Phone:  (510) 643-0203 
Fax:  (510) 643-6239

“Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities have crept in – forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day. You shall begin it serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense.”

                            -Emerson

This is the essence of forgiveness. You can't change what happened but you can make sure it doesn't have the power to prevent you from being happy tomorrow.
                           
                             -Paul Boese

“Kind words do not cost much yet they accomplish much.” 

                            -Blaise Pascal


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Re: [Micronet] Importing Eudora email/mailboxes with attachments into Apple Mail

Richard DeShong-2
There are a bunch of email archive solutions (and documents, in general) that pull all of the users' data into a searchable archive.  This helps with internal reviews, and external requests.  Some work with the company server, such as Exchange, others connect to the user's local email files and pull out copies of the emails and attachments.  

If you're looking for a way to archive an individuals email into a new app, then consider MailArchiverX:  http://www.mothsoftware.com/
 


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Guy D. VINSON <[hidden email]> wrote:
Nothing wrong with soap boxes... lets you see over the crowd. When Eudora stopped being supported on campus I switched the people I was supporting over to Thunderbird. I believe Thunderbird will support the transfer of attachments as long as the Eudora attachments folder hasn't been moved to some other location other than the normal location. Currently Thunderbird is supported on the latest versions of the Mac OS. Compacting the mail boxes in Eudora was necessary to help the process. I have always disliked apple mail for some reason so have avoided it when I could. Getting Eudora moved over to Thunderbird would allow the long term storage of mail for your client. I used Thunderbird as the storage client for bmail but would use the web interface to actively read and respond to mail. Before bmail about half my time was taken up with one email issue or another. 

When I need to archive something from email that I think I will need in the future I copy the message to Evernote (amazing how little email falls into that category) making it much easier to find. 

Guy Vinson
510-842-7199


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Beth J MURAMOTO <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks to everyone for their help, feedback and experiences on all the possible angles to take with this and especially for the reassurances on using Eudora Mailbox Cleaner. They were all invaluable as I convert those Eudora users. It's great to have an "arsenal" of things to watch out for and prepare for going in in order to avoid any major "setbacks".

My teeny little soapbox moment:

To be honest, I wish we could find some way of importing these kinds of archives into bMail or in a format where people could "carry" these archives around and accessible in the cloud (confidential items excluded). One of the "complaints" for a lot of people here and what keeps more people from changing over to bMail is this archive access ability. So much of everyone's work is an email trail and though it seems like we'd never delve into something from 1999 or earlier, I know a lot of people, especially people who work with contracts and grants where a "history" through email is essential and can't be lost or inaccessible, who can't conceive of not being able to access those trails at a moment's notice.

I know it's not as simple as that what with confidential and other more sensitive information that shouldn't be available so readily or easily, but I can sympathize with the resistance. Like it or not, our emails are the virtual filing cabinets of our work lives.


Thanks again for listening to my soapbox. Not seeking easy answers or even to rant, just wanted to share the frustration of one IT support person. I admit that maybe I should have handled this "dependence" better in anticipation of these kinds of inevitable changes. Plus, guilty admission here: Though I let it go when it was no longer supported by campus, I'm one of the many who misses Eudora and a lot of its really handy features and powerful search.

Thanks  again most of all for all your assistance. Once again, you've really helped me to develop strategies and have likely saved me from potential screw ups. I always appreciate it.

Beth


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Beth J MURAMOTO <[hidden email]> wrote:
We still have users who have been using Eudora as an archive resource for email legacies that go back to the 1990's. I'm going to be upgrading them to Mountain Lion which will make Eudora cease to function. We've been using Apple Mail as a way to import Eudora email so that they are still accessible in newer OSes, but after importing one person's email to Apple Mail, I've noticed that the attachments didn't follow along.

I know about Eudora Mailbox Cleaner, but have heard it's haphazard at best.

Does anyone have any experience or thoughts on how to make sure that the attachments import over? If I can't do this effectively, it will make upgrading to Mountain Lion just about impossible for some users to accept.

Any thoughts are welcome.

Beth

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***********************************************
Beth Muramoto
Computer Resource Specialist
Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
Phone:  (510) 643-0203 
Fax:  (510) 643-6239

“Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities have crept in – forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day. You shall begin it serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense.”

                            -Emerson

This is the essence of forgiveness. You can't change what happened but you can make sure it doesn't have the power to prevent you from being happy tomorrow.
                           
                             -Paul Boese

“Kind words do not cost much yet they accomplish much.” 

                            -Blaise Pascal


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Beth Muramoto
Computer Resource Specialist
Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
Phone:  (510) 643-0203 
Fax:  (510) 643-6239

“Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities have crept in – forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day. You shall begin it serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense.”

                            -Emerson

This is the essence of forgiveness. You can't change what happened but you can make sure it doesn't have the power to prevent you from being happy tomorrow.
                           
                             -Paul Boese

“Kind words do not cost much yet they accomplish much.” 

                            -Blaise Pascal


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Re: [Micronet] Importing Eudora email/mailboxes with attachments into Apple Mail

Nathan Clark
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From the regional airstrip that Eudora has become, there are no direct flights to the international airport that is Google/bMail.  I think you'll have to expect a two-hop journey.  And you can't check your attachments through to your final destination without paying a bag fee, which when I did this for Financial Aid was through the paid software called Aid4Mail.

I had one PC workstation with Aid4Mail, and I brought the Eudora files to it on a portable hard drive.  Painful, I know, but Aid4Mail could pair Eudora attachments with messages, so I was willing to put up with its vagaries.

From the title of your post, I infer you're a Mac shop.  Aid4Mail doesn't apparently convert to Apple Mail (http://www.aid4mail.com/formats.php).  But since it's only a layover on your way to bMail, you may as well convert into Outlook .pst files, then use this tool --


-- to upload the Outlook mail into bMail.  Please note that you'll need a Google Access Key to use as a password for the bMail upload.

Video of setting Google key:

Video of using Outlook migration tool to bMail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHgKrskl6OQ

In case you need to upload local Apple Mail, here are the tool and video walk-through for that:

Google email uploader for Mac:

Video of Local AppleMail into bMail:

 
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