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[Micronet] Lion upgrade thoughts

Adam Cohen
During the WWDC keynote one of the presenters said Lion would be available via the App Store only.  

How's that going to work for an enterprise deployment?     It's not practical for each of our people to pay the $30 and then submitting a reimbursement.

When Snow Leopard came out, we bought upgrades and received a box of discs which we could distribute.  

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Energy Biosciences Institute / UC Berkeley
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Re: [Micronet] Lion upgrade thoughts

Ian Crew
This was discussed some on the Magnet list last week:


Ian

On Jun 14, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Adam Cohen wrote:

During the WWDC keynote one of the presenters said Lion would be available via the App Store only.  

How's that going to work for an enterprise deployment?     It's not practical for each of our people to pay the $30 and then submitting a reimbursement.

When Snow Leopard came out, we bought upgrades and received a box of discs which we could distribute.  

-- 
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Energy Biosciences Institute / UC Berkeley
109 Calvin Lab / 510-642-7709


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Re: [Micronet] Lion upgrade thoughts

Burke Bundy
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I think the App Store Volume Purchase Program might be what you are
looking for:

http://www.apple.com/itunes/education/


Best,
Burke


> During the WWDC keynote one of the presenters said Lion would be available
> via the App Store only.
>
> How's that going to work for an enterprise deployment?     It's not
> practical for each of our people to pay the $30 and then submitting a
> reimbursement.
>
> When Snow Leopard came out, we bought upgrades and received a box of discs
> which we could distribute.
>
> --
> Adam Cohen / IT Manager
> Energy Biosciences Institute / UC Berkeley
> 109 Calvin Lab / 510-642-7709
> http://www.energybiosciencesinstitute.org
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Re: [Micronet] Lion upgrade thoughts

Wyn Davies
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Adam,

We still don't have answers on any of this stuff yet.  We should know more by the end of the week.  Once I hear I will post up to the list.

Thanks!

.wyn

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On Jun 14, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Adam Cohen wrote:

During the WWDC keynote one of the presenters said Lion would be available via the App Store only.  

How's that going to work for an enterprise deployment?     It's not practical for each of our people to pay the $30 and then submitting a reimbursement.

When Snow Leopard came out, we bought upgrades and received a box of discs which we could distribute.  

-- 
Adam Cohen / IT Manager
Energy Biosciences Institute / UC Berkeley
109 Calvin Lab / 510-642-7709


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Re: [Micronet] Lion upgrade thoughts

robertl
Ok. I just saw this <http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/17/apple-details-lion-purchase-process-for-business-and-education/>

But I'm not sure what it all means...

R
On Jun 14, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Wyn Davies wrote:

Adam,

We still don't have answers on any of this stuff yet.  We should know more by the end of the week.  Once I hear I will post up to the list.

Thanks!

.wyn

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Apple - West Higher Education
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On Jun 14, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Adam Cohen wrote:

During the WWDC keynote one of the presenters said Lion would be available via the App Store only.  

How's that going to work for an enterprise deployment?     It's not practical for each of our people to pay the $30 and then submitting a reimbursement.

When Snow Leopard came out, we bought upgrades and received a box of discs which we could distribute.  

-- 
Adam Cohen / IT Manager
Energy Biosciences Institute / UC Berkeley
109 Calvin Lab / 510-642-7709


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Re: [Micronet] Lion upgrade thoughts

Wyn Davies
This is a OK start for information but there are still many questions out there that we are waiting on answers to.  As soon as I hear more, I will let the list know.

.wyn

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On Jun 17, 2011, at 1:57 PM, robertl wrote:

Ok. I just saw this <http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/17/apple-details-lion-purchase-process-for-business-and-education/>

But I'm not sure what it all means...

R
On Jun 14, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Wyn Davies wrote:

Adam,

We still don't have answers on any of this stuff yet.  We should know more by the end of the week.  Once I hear I will post up to the list.

Thanks!

.wyn

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Sr. Systems Engineer
Apple - West Higher Education
408.425.3312
  





On Jun 14, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Adam Cohen wrote:

During the WWDC keynote one of the presenters said Lion would be available via the App Store only.  

How's that going to work for an enterprise deployment?     It's not practical for each of our people to pay the $30 and then submitting a reimbursement.

When Snow Leopard came out, we bought upgrades and received a box of discs which we could distribute.  

-- 
Adam Cohen / IT Manager
Energy Biosciences Institute / UC Berkeley
109 Calvin Lab / 510-642-7709


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Re: [Micronet] Lion upgrade thoughts

Lori Brooks-Manas
I just noted the following re: US OSX Lion for Business and Education users:


--Lori

On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Wyn Davies wrote:

This is a OK start for information but there are still many questions out there that we are waiting on answers to.  As soon as I hear more, I will let the list know.

.wyn

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Sr. Systems Engineer
Apple - West Higher Education
408.425.3312
  





On Jun 17, 2011, at 1:57 PM, robertl wrote:

Ok. I just saw this <http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/17/apple-details-lion-purchase-process-for-business-and-education/>

But I'm not sure what it all means...

R
On Jun 14, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Wyn Davies wrote:

Adam,

We still don't have answers on any of this stuff yet.  We should know more by the end of the week.  Once I hear I will post up to the list.

Thanks!

.wyn

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Sr. Systems Engineer
Apple - West Higher Education
408.425.3312
  





On Jun 14, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Adam Cohen wrote:

During the WWDC keynote one of the presenters said Lion would be available via the App Store only.  

How's that going to work for an enterprise deployment?     It's not practical for each of our people to pay the $30 and then submitting a reimbursement.

When Snow Leopard came out, we bought upgrades and received a box of discs which we could distribute.  

-- 
Adam Cohen / IT Manager
Energy Biosciences Institute / UC Berkeley
109 Calvin Lab / 510-642-7709


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Re: [Micronet] Lion upgrade thoughts

Lucy Greco-2

Do we know what the education pricing will be yet

I am writing up the lab upgrade pricing write now so I would like to include this is I could.

 

Lucy Greco

Assistive Technology Specialist

Disabled Student's Program UC Berkeley

(510) 643-7591

http://attlc.berkeley.edu

http://webaccess.berkeley.edu

 

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Lori Brooks-Manas
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 1:22 PM
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I just noted the following re: US OSX Lion for Business and Education users:

 

 

--Lori

 

On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Wyn Davies wrote:



This is a OK start for information but there are still many questions out there that we are waiting on answers to.  As soon as I hear more, I will let the list know.


.wyn

 

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Sr. Systems Engineer

Apple - West Higher Education

408.425.3312

  

 






 

On Jun 17, 2011, at 1:57 PM, robertl wrote:



Ok. I just saw this <http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/17/apple-details-lion-purchase-process-for-business-and-education/>

 

But I'm not sure what it all means...

 

R

On Jun 14, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Wyn Davies wrote:



Adam,

 

We still don't have answers on any of this stuff yet.  We should know more by the end of the week.  Once I hear I will post up to the list.

 

Thanks!


.wyn

 

-----------

Wyn Davies

Sr. Systems Engineer

Apple - West Higher Education

408.425.3312

  

 



 

 

On Jun 14, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Adam Cohen wrote:



During the WWDC keynote one of the presenters said Lion would be available via the App Store only.  

 

How's that going to work for an enterprise deployment?     It's not practical for each of our people to pay the $30 and then submitting a reimbursement.

 

When Snow Leopard came out, we bought upgrades and received a box of discs which we could distribute.  

 

-- 

Adam Cohen / IT Manager

Energy Biosciences Institute / UC Berkeley

109 Calvin Lab / 510-642-7709

 


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Re: [Micronet] Lion upgrade thoughts

Ian Crew
If you purchase new Macs between now and when Lion is released, you'll get the Lion upgrade for free.  

According to the PDF that Lori just pointed to, it'll cost $29.99 to upgrade on older machines.  

Apparently there's also something called the "Apple Software Collection, which consists of MacOS, iLife, and iWork, with pricing starting at $39 per license for an order quantity of 25 licenses."

Cheers,

Ian

On Jun 20, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Lucy Greco wrote:

Do we know what the education pricing will be yet
I am writing up the lab upgrade pricing write now so I would like to include this is I could.
 
Lucy Greco
Assistive Technology Specialist
Disabled Student's Program UC Berkeley
(510) 643-7591
 
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Lori Brooks-Manas
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 1:22 PM
To: Micronet Micronet List
Subject: Re: [Micronet] Lion upgrade thoughts
 
I just noted the following re: US OSX Lion for Business and Education users:
 
 
--Lori
 
On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Wyn Davies wrote:


This is a OK start for information but there are still many questions out there that we are waiting on answers to.  As soon as I hear more, I will let the list know.

.wyn
 
-----------
Wyn Davies
Sr. Systems Engineer
Apple - West Higher Education
408.425.3312
  
 





 
On Jun 17, 2011, at 1:57 PM, robertl wrote:


 
But I'm not sure what it all means...
 
R
On Jun 14, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Wyn Davies wrote:


Adam,
 
We still don't have answers on any of this stuff yet.  We should know more by the end of the week.  Once I hear I will post up to the list.
 
Thanks!

.wyn
 
-----------
Wyn Davies
Sr. Systems Engineer
Apple - West Higher Education
408.425.3312
  
 


 

 
On Jun 14, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Adam Cohen wrote:


During the WWDC keynote one of the presenters said Lion would be available via the App Store only.  
 
How's that going to work for an enterprise deployment?     It's not practical for each of our people to pay the $30 and then submitting a reimbursement.
 
When Snow Leopard came out, we bought upgrades and received a box of discs which we could distribute.  
 
-- 
Adam Cohen / IT Manager
Energy Biosciences Institute / UC Berkeley
109 Calvin Lab / 510-642-7709
 

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Re: [Micronet] Lion upgrade thoughts

Marilyn Saarni-2
My understanding is that Education volume licensing is $39/license w/minimum 25 licenses -- but that is for the "Apple Software Collection," which includes Lion, iWorks and current iLife.

Single redemption code for multiple licenses (thank you!) for use to download from the Mac App store.

It sounds like we may need to work through our Apple sales reps to make these volume purchases.  I guess that's not quite worked out yet.

In the past when our Apple ed reps suggested site licensing for the campus, the only Education option they offered was for the Apple Software Collection.  

- Marilyn

On Jun 20, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Ian Crew wrote:

If you purchase new Macs between now and when Lion is released, you'll get the Lion upgrade for free.  

According to the PDF that Lori just pointed to, it'll cost $29.99 to upgrade on older machines.  

Apparently there's also something called the "Apple Software Collection, which consists of MacOS, iLife, and iWork, with pricing starting at $39 per license for an order quantity of 25 licenses."

Cheers,

Ian

On Jun 20, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Lucy Greco wrote:

Do we know what the education pricing will be yet
I am writing up the lab upgrade pricing write now so I would like to include this is I could.
 
Lucy Greco
Assistive Technology Specialist
Disabled Student's Program UC Berkeley
(510) 643-7591
 
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Lori Brooks-Manas
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 1:22 PM
To: Micronet Micronet List
Subject: Re: [Micronet] Lion upgrade thoughts
 
I just noted the following re: US OSX Lion for Business and Education users:
 
 
--Lori
 
On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Wyn Davies wrote:


This is a OK start for information but there are still many questions out there that we are waiting on answers to.  As soon as I hear more, I will let the list know.

.wyn
 
-----------
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Sr. Systems Engineer
Apple - West Higher Education
408.425.3312
  
 





 
On Jun 17, 2011, at 1:57 PM, robertl wrote:


 
But I'm not sure what it all means...
 
R
On Jun 14, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Wyn Davies wrote:


Adam,
 
We still don't have answers on any of this stuff yet.  We should know more by the end of the week.  Once I hear I will post up to the list.
 
Thanks!

.wyn
 
-----------
Wyn Davies
Sr. Systems Engineer
Apple - West Higher Education
408.425.3312
  
 


 

 
On Jun 14, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Adam Cohen wrote:


During the WWDC keynote one of the presenters said Lion would be available via the App Store only.  
 
How's that going to work for an enterprise deployment?     It's not practical for each of our people to pay the $30 and then submitting a reimbursement.
 
When Snow Leopard came out, we bought upgrades and received a box of discs which we could distribute.  
 
-- 
Adam Cohen / IT Manager
Energy Biosciences Institute / UC Berkeley
109 Calvin Lab / 510-642-7709
 

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Re: [Micronet] Lion upgrade thoughts

Wyn Davies
Folks,

We still don't have all the answers to the questions you are asking.  We still do not know if there is an academic pricing model for Lion or Lion Server or for the new Final Cut Pro X that we just started shipping today.  The documentation that was released last week didn't clarify things for me so I didn't send it out to the list.  I am waiting for more complete and thorough documentation.  I hope to have all the pricing and licensing answers by the end of the week.  Stay tuned and thanks for your patience.


.wyn

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On Jun 20, 2011, at 5:15 PM, Marilyn Saarni wrote:

My understanding is that Education volume licensing is $39/license w/minimum 25 licenses -- but that is for the "Apple Software Collection," which includes Lion, iWorks and current iLife.

Single redemption code for multiple licenses (thank you!) for use to download from the Mac App store.

It sounds like we may need to work through our Apple sales reps to make these volume purchases.  I guess that's not quite worked out yet.

In the past when our Apple ed reps suggested site licensing for the campus, the only Education option they offered was for the Apple Software Collection.  

- Marilyn

On Jun 20, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Ian Crew wrote:

If you purchase new Macs between now and when Lion is released, you'll get the Lion upgrade for free.  

According to the PDF that Lori just pointed to, it'll cost $29.99 to upgrade on older machines.  

Apparently there's also something called the "Apple Software Collection, which consists of MacOS, iLife, and iWork, with pricing starting at $39 per license for an order quantity of 25 licenses."

Cheers,

Ian

On Jun 20, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Lucy Greco wrote:

Do we know what the education pricing will be yet
I am writing up the lab upgrade pricing write now so I would like to include this is I could.
 
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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Lori Brooks-Manas
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 1:22 PM
To: Micronet Micronet List
Subject: Re: [Micronet] Lion upgrade thoughts
 
I just noted the following re: US OSX Lion for Business and Education users:
 
 
--Lori
 
On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Wyn Davies wrote:


This is a OK start for information but there are still many questions out there that we are waiting on answers to.  As soon as I hear more, I will let the list know.

.wyn
 
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On Jun 17, 2011, at 1:57 PM, robertl wrote:


 
But I'm not sure what it all means...
 
R
On Jun 14, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Wyn Davies wrote:


Adam,
 
We still don't have answers on any of this stuff yet.  We should know more by the end of the week.  Once I hear I will post up to the list.
 
Thanks!

.wyn
 
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On Jun 14, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Adam Cohen wrote:


During the WWDC keynote one of the presenters said Lion would be available via the App Store only.  
 
How's that going to work for an enterprise deployment?     It's not practical for each of our people to pay the $30 and then submitting a reimbursement.
 
When Snow Leopard came out, we bought upgrades and received a box of discs which we could distribute.  
 
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