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[Micronet] Migration Assistant and file transferring onto the newer Macs

Beth Muramoto
I seem to be having a terrible time accomplishing file migrations for upgrading various older computers (iMacs and MacBooks) to newer versions with various firewire options and without them.

The last time I had trouble Roy Baril, graciously helped me by telling me that I needed to select Another Disk when doing the migrations, but now, nothing seems to work. I'm using thunderbolt cables, using adapters to old 400/600/800 firewire connections and they just don't seem to be seeing each other when I go into target disk mode. I can't even seem to get the new computers to see a target disk using any iteration of the cables so I've even had to create adhoc temporary wireless networks to have the computers see each other and it works sometimes, but not all the time and it takes HOURS.

I've tried a free version of Super Duper to clone one computer, but it won't let me clone onto another computer without buying the full version...I seem to remember we could do this with the free version, but it's been awhile.

As a last resort and from desperation, I've just been manually copying over files using an external hard drive, but this is labor and time intensive and I've had to recreate account settings etc.

Does anyone have any suggestions? Maybe I should use Carbon Copy cloner?

I'm going slowly insane with the struggles. This should be easy, but it has been anything but and I'm beginning to wonder what I'm doing wrong. Has anyone else had issues doing file migrations from an older Mac to the newer ones? Is it just me?

Thanks. *hitting her head against her desk.


Beth

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Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
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Berkeley, CA 94720
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Re: [Micronet] Migration Assistant and file transferring onto the newer Macs

Graham Patterson

Stop hitting that desk. It hasn't done anything wrong 8-)


Assuming Macs with a network port, or a USB or Thunderbolt adapter, you
could use a cross-over network cable, if you have to do a network link.

Graham

On 3/4/13 1:25 PM, Beth J MURAMOTO wrote:

> I seem to be having a terrible time accomplishing file migrations for
> upgrading various older computers (iMacs and MacBooks) to newer versions
> with various firewire options and without them.
>
> The last time I had trouble Roy Baril, graciously helped me by telling
> me that I needed to select Another Disk when doing the migrations, but
> now, nothing seems to work. I'm using thunderbolt cables, using adapters
> to old 400/600/800 firewire connections and they just don't seem to be
> seeing each other when I go into target disk mode. I can't even seem to
> get the new computers to see a target disk using any iteration of the
> cables so I've even had to create adhoc temporary wireless networks to
> have the computers see each other and it works sometimes, but not all
> the time and it takes HOURS.
>
> I've tried a free version of Super Duper to clone one computer, but it
> won't let me clone onto another computer without buying the full
> version...I seem to remember we could do this with the free version, but
> it's been awhile.
>
> As a last resort and from desperation, I've just been manually copying
> over files using an external hard drive, but this is labor and time
> intensive and I've had to recreate account settings etc.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions? Maybe I should use Carbon Copy cloner?
>
> I'm going slowly insane with the struggles. This should be easy, but it
> has been anything but and I'm beginning to wonder what I'm doing wrong.
> Has anyone else had issues doing file migrations from an older Mac to
> the newer ones? Is it just me?
>
> Thanks. *hitting her head against her desk.
>
>
> Beth
>
> --
> ***********************************************
> Beth Muramoto
> Computer Resource Specialist
> Graduate School of Education
> University of California, Berkeley
> 1650 Tolman Hall
> Berkeley, CA 94720
> Email:  mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
> Phone:  (510) 643-0203
> Fax:  (510) 643-6239
>
> The Formula for Success:  Underpromise, overdeliver.
> - Tom Peters
>
> You have to decide what your highest priorities are and have the courage
> to say 'no' to other things."
>
> -Stephen Covey
>
> I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I
> have of it.
>
> -Coleman Cox
>
> ***********************************************
>
>
>
>  
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Re: [Micronet] Migration Assistant and file transferring onto the newer Macs

Jay Bryon
To second Graham's suggestion, you can use either a crossover or a straight through ethernet patch cord directly on the two machines.  Macs will auto-mdi, which is to say they don't care if it's crossover or not, they'll establish link anyway.  

Most macs have Gig ethernet for years now, and while the older machines can't really push that much, it'll still be lots faster than wireless, even assuming you have an isolated interference free environment (which isn't a given).  

I also advise against steelcase-cranial impact, you could knock something expensive off of it.  

-J

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Graham Patterson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Stop hitting that desk. It hasn't done anything wrong 8-)


Assuming Macs with a network port, or a USB or Thunderbolt adapter, you
could use a cross-over network cable, if you have to do a network link.

Graham

On 3/4/13 1:25 PM, Beth J MURAMOTO wrote:
> I seem to be having a terrible time accomplishing file migrations for
> upgrading various older computers (iMacs and MacBooks) to newer versions
> with various firewire options and without them.
>
> The last time I had trouble Roy Baril, graciously helped me by telling
> me that I needed to select Another Disk when doing the migrations, but
> now, nothing seems to work. I'm using thunderbolt cables, using adapters
> to old 400/600/800 firewire connections and they just don't seem to be
> seeing each other when I go into target disk mode. I can't even seem to
> get the new computers to see a target disk using any iteration of the
> cables so I've even had to create adhoc temporary wireless networks to
> have the computers see each other and it works sometimes, but not all
> the time and it takes HOURS.
>
> I've tried a free version of Super Duper to clone one computer, but it
> won't let me clone onto another computer without buying the full
> version...I seem to remember we could do this with the free version, but
> it's been awhile.
>
> As a last resort and from desperation, I've just been manually copying
> over files using an external hard drive, but this is labor and time
> intensive and I've had to recreate account settings etc.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions? Maybe I should use Carbon Copy cloner?
>
> I'm going slowly insane with the struggles. This should be easy, but it
> has been anything but and I'm beginning to wonder what I'm doing wrong.
> Has anyone else had issues doing file migrations from an older Mac to
> the newer ones? Is it just me?
>
> Thanks. *hitting her head against her desk.
>
>
> Beth
>
> --
> ***********************************************
> Beth Muramoto
> Computer Resource Specialist
> Graduate School of Education
> University of California, Berkeley
> 1650 Tolman Hall
> Berkeley, CA 94720
> Email:  mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
> Phone:  (510) 643-0203
> Fax:  (510) 643-6239
>
> The Formula for Success:  Underpromise, overdeliver.
> - Tom Peters
>
> You have to decide what your highest priorities are and have the courage
> to say 'no' to other things."
>
> -Stephen Covey
>
> I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I
> have of it.
>
> -Coleman Cox
>
> ***********************************************
>
>
>
>
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Lawrence Hall of Science, UC Berkeley   510-643-2222
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Re: [Micronet] Migration Assistant and file transferring onto the newer Macs

Beth Muramoto
HAHAHAHA! Thanks to you and Graham for making me laugh at the absurdity of my situation and for keeping into perspective that it's not a concussion I should be worried about, but the valuable items on my, admittedly cluttered, desk being damaged in the process expressing my frustration.

I'll definitely try the ethernet cable option. I have oodles of those. I'm "desperate" make the migration work because in the end, it makes my life easier even though it doesn't feel like it right now.

Thanks!

Beth

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Jay BRYON <[hidden email]> wrote:
To second Graham's suggestion, you can use either a crossover or a straight through ethernet patch cord directly on the two machines.  Macs will auto-mdi, which is to say they don't care if it's crossover or not, they'll establish link anyway.  

Most macs have Gig ethernet for years now, and while the older machines can't really push that much, it'll still be lots faster than wireless, even assuming you have an isolated interference free environment (which isn't a given).  

I also advise against steelcase-cranial impact, you could knock something expensive off of it.  

-J

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Graham Patterson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Stop hitting that desk. It hasn't done anything wrong 8-)


Assuming Macs with a network port, or a USB or Thunderbolt adapter, you
could use a cross-over network cable, if you have to do a network link.

Graham

On 3/4/13 1:25 PM, Beth J MURAMOTO wrote:
> I seem to be having a terrible time accomplishing file migrations for
> upgrading various older computers (iMacs and MacBooks) to newer versions
> with various firewire options and without them.
>
> The last time I had trouble Roy Baril, graciously helped me by telling
> me that I needed to select Another Disk when doing the migrations, but
> now, nothing seems to work. I'm using thunderbolt cables, using adapters
> to old 400/600/800 firewire connections and they just don't seem to be
> seeing each other when I go into target disk mode. I can't even seem to
> get the new computers to see a target disk using any iteration of the
> cables so I've even had to create adhoc temporary wireless networks to
> have the computers see each other and it works sometimes, but not all
> the time and it takes HOURS.
>
> I've tried a free version of Super Duper to clone one computer, but it
> won't let me clone onto another computer without buying the full
> version...I seem to remember we could do this with the free version, but
> it's been awhile.
>
> As a last resort and from desperation, I've just been manually copying
> over files using an external hard drive, but this is labor and time
> intensive and I've had to recreate account settings etc.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions? Maybe I should use Carbon Copy cloner?
>
> I'm going slowly insane with the struggles. This should be easy, but it
> has been anything but and I'm beginning to wonder what I'm doing wrong.
> Has anyone else had issues doing file migrations from an older Mac to
> the newer ones? Is it just me?
>
> Thanks. *hitting her head against her desk.
>
>
> Beth
>
> --
> ***********************************************
> Beth Muramoto
> Computer Resource Specialist
> Graduate School of Education
> University of California, Berkeley
> 1650 Tolman Hall
> Berkeley, CA 94720
> Email:  mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
> Phone:  (510) 643-0203
> Fax:  (510) 643-6239
>
> The Formula for Success:  Underpromise, overdeliver.
> - Tom Peters
>
> You have to decide what your highest priorities are and have the courage
> to say 'no' to other things."
>
> -Stephen Covey
>
> I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I
> have of it.
>
> -Coleman Cox
>
> ***********************************************
>
>
>
>
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Lawrence Hall of Science, UC Berkeley   510-643-2222
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puzzles, and the meteorite..." - directions to my office.


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Beth Muramoto
Computer Resource Specialist
Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
Phone:  (510) 643-0203 
Fax:  (510) 643-6239

The Formula for Success:  Underpromise, overdeliver.
- Tom Peters

You have to decide what your highest priorities are and have the courage to say 'no' to other things." 

-Stephen Covey

I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it. 

-Coleman Cox

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