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[Micronet] NAS

David Lee

Any suggestions for NAS machines that are both Active Directory and Windows 7 compatible?

 

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Re: [Micronet] NAS

Jonathan Loran
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What kind of capacity are you looking at, and what can you spend?  There's a world of possibilities out there, but if it is the scale you want, I would look at one of the Opensolaris based systems.  These would use the ZFS filesystem, which is the current state of the art for affordable NAS storage.  You can attach these to an active directory domain controller, and get well integrated CIFS storage.

-For the lower end, look at: http://www.nexenta.com/corp/ (or roll your own with www.opensolaris.com.  YMMV).  For these, you buy the hardware, and install the software.  Nexentastor is very easy to setup, where as the Opensolaris OS is, well, and OS which = more config work.
-If you have money to spend, Sun unified storage is simply the bees knees:  http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/storage/unified-storage/index.html

At this point, let's just say I have a lot of experience with ZFS, and I'm sold.

Jon


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Any suggestions for NAS machines that are both Active Directory and Windows 7 compatible?
 
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Re: [Micronet] NAS

Bill Clark
I would also recommend NetApp, which is (or was -- it's been a few years since I used one) a FreeBSD-based system that's very high-performance and extremely reliable due to it's advanced snapshot/backup system. It also has "real" (i.e licensed) CIFS support (which was why it was BSD-based rather than GPL/Linux-based, though some might argue that BSD has better network performance anyway, especially for NFS) so it should work seamlessly with Windows. 

Bill Clark

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What kind of capacity are you looking at, and what can you spend?  There's a world of possibilities out there, but if it is the scale you want, I would look at one of the Opensolaris based systems.  These would use the ZFS filesystem, which is the current state of the art for affordable NAS storage.  You can attach these to an active directory domain controller, and get well integrated CIFS storage.

-For the lower end, look at: http://www.nexenta.com/corp/ (or roll your own with www.opensolaris.com.  YMMV).  For these, you buy the hardware, and install the software.  Nexentastor is very easy to setup, where as the Opensolaris OS is, well, and OS which = more config work.
-If you have money to spend, Sun unified storage is simply the bees knees:  http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/storage/unified-storage/index.html

At this point, let's just say I have a lot of experience with ZFS, and I'm sold.

Jon


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Re: [Micronet] NAS

Andrew Ring
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Just want to warn against the OpenSolaris route if you only know Linux.
  When things work they are great, really great.  When things don't work
the troubleshooting can be extremely painful.
I would suggest not building a file server on anything that you don't:
         a.) know and love, or b.) have a support contract for.

Jonathan Loran wrote:

>
> What kind of capacity are you looking at, and what can you spend?
>  There's a world of possibilities out there, but if it is the scale you
> want, I would look at one of the Opensolaris based systems.  These would
> use the ZFS filesystem, which is the current state of the art for
> affordable NAS storage.  You can attach these to an active directory
> domain controller, and get well integrated CIFS storage.
>
> -For the lower end, look at: http://www.nexenta.com/corp/ (or roll your
> own with www.opensolaris.com <http://www.opensolaris.com>.  YMMV).  For
> these, you buy the hardware, and install the software.  Nexentastor is
> very easy to setup, where as the Opensolaris OS is, well, and OS which =
> more config work.
> -If you have money to spend, Sun unified storage is simply the bees
> knees:
>  http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/storage/unified-storage/index.html
>
> At this point, let's just say I have a lot of experience with ZFS, and
> I'm sold.
>
> Jon
>
>
> On Jul 14, 2010, at 3:01 PM, David Lee wrote:
>
>> Any suggestions for NAS machines that are both Active Directory and
>> Windows 7 compatible?
>>  
>> David D. Lee
>> *Computer Resource Specialist II*
>> *OUA, UC Berkeley*
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Re: [Micronet] NAS

Jonathan Loran

I would say Andrews statements are true in general with respect to IT.  At least from the server end of things.

If you go the fancy route with unified storage, you will certainly be getting support with that.  Furthermore, management of those units are very easy, as they are appliances, from the user perspective.  For fun, check out the unified storage simulator:  http://www.oracle.com/webapps/dialogue/dlgpage.jsp?p_ext=Y&p_dlg_id=8588618&src=6870265&Act=7

Jon

On Jul 15, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Andrew Ring wrote:

Just want to warn against the OpenSolaris route if you only know Linux.
 When things work they are great, really great.  When things don't work
the troubleshooting can be extremely painful.
I would suggest not building a file server on anything that you don't:
a.) know and love, or b.) have a support contract for.

Jonathan Loran wrote:

What kind of capacity are you looking at, and what can you spend?
There's a world of possibilities out there, but if it is the scale you
want, I would look at one of the Opensolaris based systems.  These would
use the ZFS filesystem, which is the current state of the art for
affordable NAS storage.  You can attach these to an active directory
domain controller, and get well integrated CIFS storage.

-For the lower end, look at: http://www.nexenta.com/corp/ (or roll your
own with www.opensolaris.com <http://www.opensolaris.com>.  YMMV).  For
these, you buy the hardware, and install the software.  Nexentastor is
very easy to setup, where as the Opensolaris OS is, well, and OS which =
more config work.
-If you have money to spend, Sun unified storage is simply the bees
knees:
http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/storage/unified-storage/index.html

At this point, let's just say I have a lot of experience with ZFS, and
I'm sold.

Jon


On Jul 14, 2010, at 3:01 PM, David Lee wrote:

Any suggestions for NAS machines that are both Active Directory and
Windows 7 compatible?

David D. Lee
*Computer Resource Specialist II*
*OUA, UC Berkeley*
*(510) 642-1565*


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Re: [Micronet] NAS

Jon Forrest
On 7/15/2010 11:03 PM, Jonathan Loran wrote:

> If you go the fancy route with unified storage, you will certainly be
> getting support with that. Furthermore, management of those units are
> very easy, as they are appliances, from the user perspective. For fun,
> check out the unified storage simulator:
> http://www.oracle.com/webapps/dialogue/dlgpage.jsp?p_ext=Y&p_dlg_id=8588618&src=6870265&Act=7

I have one of the Sun 7000 series storage servers
that this storage simulator simulates. So far I like
it fine, but the CIFS implementation is not straight
forward. I found it easier to just run Samba
on a host that mounts file systems exported
from the Sun server. Maybe with more time I'd feel
differently.

The management interface in this box is pretty good but
there are some questionable features. Fortunately,
after setting up the server I've hardly had to touch it
so the management glitches haven't been painful.
My main concern is what's going to happen with Oracle
in charge.

Cordially,
--
Jon Forrest
Research Computing Support
College of Chemistry
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University of California Berkeley
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