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[Micronet] SECOND DRAFT PROPOSED CHARTER comments period ending Friday

Vivian Sophia
Hi Micronet,

THANK YOU to everyone who has provided comments about the proposed charter so far. Aron and I have written a second draft of the charter and invite further comments.

----------------begin text-----------
Micronet is a voluntary organization for employees at the University of California, Berkeley who are involved with or interested in campus computing support, and welcomes others who are interested.

Goals:
* Provide forums, both online and in-person, for announcements of campus information technology-related events, services, and projects, and for discussion of topics pertinent to campus computing services.
* Facilitate constructive interactions among the organization's members, and between its members and those of other complementary campus groups.
-----------------end text------

Once it is finalized, this charter will be used to describe Micronet on the official staff organization web page and on the Micronet mailing list description page.

You are welcome to make comments through Friday.


Vivian Sophia
Berkeley IT (CSS)
Business/Tech Support Analyst
University of California, Berkeley
310B Durant Hall
(510) 541-6120


 
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Re: [Micronet] SECOND DRAFT PROPOSED CHARTER comments period ending Friday

Seth Novogrodsky
Hi Vivian,

I think it is important to include the word "professional" (agreeing with your comments and Ian's comments earlier in this discussion):

Micronet is a voluntary professional organization for employees . . .

The word "professional" has been in Micronet's charter since the group was established and up until this point no one has objected.

Thanks,
Seth

On 2/5/2015 8:17 AM, Vivian Sophia wrote:
Hi Micronet,

THANK YOU to everyone who has provided comments about the proposed charter so far. Aron and I have written a second draft of the charter and invite further comments.

----------------begin text-----------
Micronet is a voluntary organization for employees at the University of California, Berkeley who are involved with or interested in campus computing support, and welcomes others who are interested.

Goals:
* Provide forums, both online and in-person, for announcements of campus information technology-related events, services, and projects, and for discussion of topics pertinent to campus computing services.
* Facilitate constructive interactions among the organization's members, and between its members and those of other complementary campus groups.
-----------------end text------

Once it is finalized, this charter will be used to describe Micronet on the official staff organization web page and on the Micronet mailing list description page.

You are welcome to make comments through Friday.


Vivian Sophia
Berkeley IT (CSS)
Business/Tech Support Analyst
University of California, Berkeley
310B Durant Hall
(510) 541-6120



 
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Re: [Micronet] SECOND DRAFT PROPOSED CHARTER comments period ending Friday

Vivian Sophia
Seth, is this better?

Micronet is a voluntary organization for IT professionals at the University of California, Berkeley, and others who are involved with or interested in campus computing support.





Vivian Sophia
Berkeley IT (CSS)
Business/Tech Support Analyst
University of California, Berkeley
310B Durant Hall
(510) 541-6120


On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Seth Novogrodsky <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Vivian,

I think it is important to include the word "professional" (agreeing with your comments and Ian's comments earlier in this discussion):

Micronet is a voluntary professional organization for employees . . .

The word "professional" has been in Micronet's charter since the group was established and up until this point no one has objected.

Thanks,
Seth


On 2/5/2015 8:17 AM, Vivian Sophia wrote:
Hi Micronet,

THANK YOU to everyone who has provided comments about the proposed charter so far. Aron and I have written a second draft of the charter and invite further comments.

----------------begin text-----------
Micronet is a voluntary organization for employees at the University of California, Berkeley who are involved with or interested in campus computing support, and welcomes others who are interested.

Goals:
* Provide forums, both online and in-person, for announcements of campus information technology-related events, services, and projects, and for discussion of topics pertinent to campus computing services.
* Facilitate constructive interactions among the organization's members, and between its members and those of other complementary campus groups.
-----------------end text------

Once it is finalized, this charter will be used to describe Micronet on the official staff organization web page and on the Micronet mailing list description page.

You are welcome to make comments through Friday.


Vivian Sophia
Berkeley IT (CSS)
Business/Tech Support Analyst
University of California, Berkeley
310B Durant Hall
<a href="tel:%28510%29%20541-6120" value="+15105416120" target="_blank">(510) 541-6120



 
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Re: [Micronet] SECOND DRAFT PROPOSED CHARTER comments period ending Friday

Richard DeShong-2
Nicely done Vivian. It's now modifying the correct noun, imho.  I'm voting for it.

On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Vivian Sophia <[hidden email]> wrote:
Seth, is this better?

Micronet is a voluntary organization for IT professionals at the University of California, Berkeley, and others who are involved with or interested in campus computing support.





Vivian Sophia
Berkeley IT (CSS)
Business/Tech Support Analyst
University of California, Berkeley
310B Durant Hall
(510) 541-6120


On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Seth Novogrodsky <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Vivian,

I think it is important to include the word "professional" (agreeing with your comments and Ian's comments earlier in this discussion):

Micronet is a voluntary professional organization for employees . . .

The word "professional" has been in Micronet's charter since the group was established and up until this point no one has objected.

Thanks,
Seth


On 2/5/2015 8:17 AM, Vivian Sophia wrote:
Hi Micronet,

THANK YOU to everyone who has provided comments about the proposed charter so far. Aron and I have written a second draft of the charter and invite further comments.

----------------begin text-----------
Micronet is a voluntary organization for employees at the University of California, Berkeley who are involved with or interested in campus computing support, and welcomes others who are interested.

Goals:
* Provide forums, both online and in-person, for announcements of campus information technology-related events, services, and projects, and for discussion of topics pertinent to campus computing services.
* Facilitate constructive interactions among the organization's members, and between its members and those of other complementary campus groups.
-----------------end text------

Once it is finalized, this charter will be used to describe Micronet on the official staff organization web page and on the Micronet mailing list description page.

You are welcome to make comments through Friday.


Vivian Sophia
Berkeley IT (CSS)
Business/Tech Support Analyst
University of California, Berkeley
310B Durant Hall
<a href="tel:%28510%29%20541-6120" value="+15105416120" target="_blank">(510) 541-6120



 
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Re: [Micronet] SECOND DRAFT PROPOSED CHARTER comments period ending Friday

Seth Novogrodsky
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Hi Vivian,

This is fine with me.

Thanks,
Seth

On 2/5/2015 4:43 PM, Vivian Sophia wrote:
Seth, is this better?

Micronet is a voluntary organization for IT professionals at the University of California, Berkeley, and others who are involved with or interested in campus computing support.





Vivian Sophia
Berkeley IT (CSS)
Business/Tech Support Analyst
University of California, Berkeley
310B Durant Hall
(510) 541-6120


On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Seth Novogrodsky <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Vivian,

I think it is important to include the word "professional" (agreeing with your comments and Ian's comments earlier in this discussion):

Micronet is a voluntary professional organization for employees . . .

The word "professional" has been in Micronet's charter since the group was established and up until this point no one has objected.

Thanks,
Seth


On 2/5/2015 8:17 AM, Vivian Sophia wrote:
Hi Micronet,

THANK YOU to everyone who has provided comments about the proposed charter so far. Aron and I have written a second draft of the charter and invite further comments.

----------------begin text-----------
Micronet is a voluntary organization for employees at the University of California, Berkeley who are involved with or interested in campus computing support, and welcomes others who are interested.

Goals:
* Provide forums, both online and in-person, for announcements of campus information technology-related events, services, and projects, and for discussion of topics pertinent to campus computing services.
* Facilitate constructive interactions among the organization's members, and between its members and those of other complementary campus groups.
-----------------end text------

Once it is finalized, this charter will be used to describe Micronet on the official staff organization web page and on the Micronet mailing list description page.

You are welcome to make comments through Friday.


Vivian Sophia
Berkeley IT (CSS)
Business/Tech Support Analyst
University of California, Berkeley
310B Durant Hall
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%28510%29%20541-6120" value="+15105416120" target="_blank">(510) 541-6120



 
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Re: [Micronet] SECOND DRAFT PROPOSED CHARTER comments period ending Friday

walt
You're probably right.  

It still sounds a little elitist (to me) if I tell people to call me a professional,  but the latest version doesn't sound at all offensive.

-Walt Pyle

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Hi Vivian,

This is fine with me.

Thanks,
Seth

On 2/5/2015 4:43 PM, Vivian Sophia wrote:

>> Seth, is this better?
>>
>> Micronet is a voluntary organization for IT professionals at the
>> University of California, Berkeley, and others who are involved with
>> or interested in campus computing support.
>>
>>
>
>
>
> Vivian Sophia
> Berkeley IT (CSS)
> Business/Tech Support Analyst
> University of California, Berkeley
> 310B Durant Hall
> (510) 541-6120
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Seth Novogrodsky <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Vivian,
>
>     I think it is important to include the word "professional"
>     (agreeing with your comments and Ian's comments earlier in this
>     discussion):
>
>     Micronet is a voluntary professional organization for employees . . .
>
>     The word "professional" has been in Micronet's charter since the
>     group was established and up until this point no one has objected.
>
>     Thanks,
>     Seth
>
>
>     On 2/5/2015 8:17 AM, Vivian Sophia wrote:
>>     Hi Micronet,
>>
>>     THANK YOU to everyone who has provided comments about the
>>     proposed charter so far. Aron and I have written a second draft
>>     of the charter and invite further comments.
>>
>>     ----------------begin text-----------
>>     Micronet is a voluntary organization for employees at the
>>     University of California, Berkeley who are involved with or
>>     interested in campus computing support, and welcomes others who
>>     are interested.
>>
>>     Goals:
>>     * Provide forums, both online and in-person, for announcements of
>>     campus information technology-related events, services, and
>>     projects, and for discussion of topics pertinent to campus
>>     computing services.
>>     * Facilitate constructive interactions among the organization's
>>     members, and between its members and those of other complementary
>>     campus groups.
>>     -----------------end text------
>>
>>     Once it is finalized, this charter will be used to describe
>>     Micronet on the official staff organization web page and on the
>>     Micronet mailing list description page.
>>
>>     You are welcome to make comments through Friday.
>>
>>
>>     Vivian Sophia
>>     Berkeley IT (CSS)
>>     Business/Tech Support Analyst
>>     University of California, Berkeley
>>     310B Durant Hall
>>     (510) 541-6120 <tel:%28510%29%20541-6120>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Micronet] SECOND DRAFT PROPOSED CHARTER comments period ending Friday

Richard DeShong-2
Hi Walt, it's ok.  Being a member of Micronet doesn't make you a professional.  You can simply consider yourself to be part of the "others ...".  ;)

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:44 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:
You're probably right.

It still sounds a little elitist (to me) if I tell people to call me a professional,  but the latest version doesn't sound at all offensive.

-Walt Pyle

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Hi Vivian,

This is fine with me.

Thanks,
Seth

On 2/5/2015 4:43 PM, Vivian Sophia wrote:
>> Seth, is this better?
>>
>> Micronet is a voluntary organization for IT professionals at the
>> University of California, Berkeley, and others who are involved with
>> or interested in campus computing support.
>>
>>
>
>
>
> Vivian Sophia
> Berkeley IT (CSS)
> Business/Tech Support Analyst
> University of California, Berkeley
> 310B Durant Hall
> (510) 541-6120
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Seth Novogrodsky <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Vivian,
>
>     I think it is important to include the word "professional"
>     (agreeing with your comments and Ian's comments earlier in this
>     discussion):
>
>     Micronet is a voluntary professional organization for employees . . .
>
>     The word "professional" has been in Micronet's charter since the
>     group was established and up until this point no one has objected.
>
>     Thanks,
>     Seth
>
>
>     On 2/5/2015 8:17 AM, Vivian Sophia wrote:
>>     Hi Micronet,
>>
>>     THANK YOU to everyone who has provided comments about the
>>     proposed charter so far. Aron and I have written a second draft
>>     of the charter and invite further comments.
>>
>>     ----------------begin text-----------
>>     Micronet is a voluntary organization for employees at the
>>     University of California, Berkeley who are involved with or
>>     interested in campus computing support, and welcomes others who
>>     are interested.
>>
>>     Goals:
>>     * Provide forums, both online and in-person, for announcements of
>>     campus information technology-related events, services, and
>>     projects, and for discussion of topics pertinent to campus
>>     computing services.
>>     * Facilitate constructive interactions among the organization's
>>     members, and between its members and those of other complementary
>>     campus groups.
>>     -----------------end text------
>>
>>     Once it is finalized, this charter will be used to describe
>>     Micronet on the official staff organization web page and on the
>>     Micronet mailing list description page.
>>
>>     You are welcome to make comments through Friday.
>>
>>
>>     Vivian Sophia
>>     Berkeley IT (CSS)
>>     Business/Tech Support Analyst
>>     University of California, Berkeley
>>     310B Durant Hall
>>     (510) 541-6120 <tel:%28510%29%20541-6120>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: [Micronet] SECOND DRAFT PROPOSED CHARTER comments period ending Friday

Aron Roberts
Richard wrote:
> Being a member of Micronet doesn't make you a professional ...

Dang. Double dang.

Now that the cat's out of the bag ... all those kickbacks the Micronet Coordinators and assorted admins have received over the years, each lovingly routed into The Secret Fund for Kick-Arse Margaritas and Those Little Lime Green Paper Umbrellas, through issuing Really Convincing IT Professional certificates to all and sundry, will be drying up now.

Ahhhhh ... it was great while it lasted!

TGIF,
Aron

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Richard DESHONG <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Walt, it's ok.  Being a member of Micronet doesn't make you a professional.  You can simply consider yourself to be part of the "others ...".  ;)

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:44 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:
You're probably right.

It still sounds a little elitist (to me) if I tell people to call me a professional,  but the latest version doesn't sound at all offensive.

-Walt Pyle

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Hi Vivian,

This is fine with me.

Thanks,
Seth

On 2/5/2015 4:43 PM, Vivian Sophia wrote:
>> Seth, is this better?
>>
>> Micronet is a voluntary organization for IT professionals at the
>> University of California, Berkeley, and others who are involved with
>> or interested in campus computing support.
>>
>>
>
>
>
> Vivian Sophia
> Berkeley IT (CSS)
> Business/Tech Support Analyst
> University of California, Berkeley
> 310B Durant Hall
> <a href="tel:%28510%29%20541-6120" value="+15105416120" target="_blank">(510) 541-6120
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> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Seth Novogrodsky <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Vivian,
>
>     I think it is important to include the word "professional"
>     (agreeing with your comments and Ian's comments earlier in this
>     discussion):
>
>     Micronet is a voluntary professional organization for employees . . .
>
>     The word "professional" has been in Micronet's charter since the
>     group was established and up until this point no one has objected.
>
>     Thanks,
>     Seth
>
>
>     On 2/5/2015 8:17 AM, Vivian Sophia wrote:
>>     Hi Micronet,
>>
>>     THANK YOU to everyone who has provided comments about the
>>     proposed charter so far. Aron and I have written a second draft
>>     of the charter and invite further comments.
>>
>>     ----------------begin text-----------
>>     Micronet is a voluntary organization for employees at the
>>     University of California, Berkeley who are involved with or
>>     interested in campus computing support, and welcomes others who
>>     are interested.
>>
>>     Goals:
>>     * Provide forums, both online and in-person, for announcements of
>>     campus information technology-related events, services, and
>>     projects, and for discussion of topics pertinent to campus
>>     computing services.
>>     * Facilitate constructive interactions among the organization's
>>     members, and between its members and those of other complementary
>>     campus groups.
>>     -----------------end text------
>>
>>     Once it is finalized, this charter will be used to describe
>>     Micronet on the official staff organization web page and on the
>>     Micronet mailing list description page.
>>
>>     You are welcome to make comments through Friday.
>>
>>
>>     Vivian Sophia
>>     Berkeley IT (CSS)
>>     Business/Tech Support Analyst
>>     University of California, Berkeley
>>     310B Durant Hall
>>     <a href="tel:%28510%29%20541-6120" value="+15105416120" target="_blank">(510) 541-6120 <tel:%28510%29%20541-6120>
>>
>>
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