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[Micronet] Wireless Printer set up using AirBears

Beth Muramoto
I'm probably missing something uber stupid, but is it possible to hook up a wireless printer, in this case a
Brother HL2270DW  using AirBears?

I know it can be done at home on personal wifi zones, but I haven't been successful at doing it here on campus. Maybe it's not allowed or like I said, maybe I'm missing some uber easy and stupid step.

Any tips are welcome.

Thanks!

Beth




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Beth Muramoto
Computer Resource Specialist
Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
Phone:  (510) 643-0203
Fax:  (510) 643-6239

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Re: [Micronet] Wireless Printer set up using AirBears

Richard DeShong-2
When you install a wireless printer, it is acting as it's own access point,
and creating a micro-lan with any computers nearby.  It is also potentially
interfering with any AirBears access points in the area.

To connect it to AirBears would mean that you are bridging the printers lan
to the airbears system.  I don't think the access point in the printer is
designed to do this.  I am also sure that it's not allowed.
--
Richard DeShong,  Systems Analyst
Athletic Study Center,  U.C. Berkeley
164 Chavez Student Center,  Berkeley, CA 94720-4220
510-642-5123,  asc.berkeley.edu

-----Original Message-----
From: Beth Muramoto Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 1:37 PM

I'm probably missing something uber stupid, but is it possible to hook up a
wireless printer, in this case a Brother HL2270DW  using AirBears?

I know it can be done at home on personal wifi zones, but I haven't been
successful at doing it here on campus. Maybe it's not allowed or like I
said, maybe I'm missing some uber easy and stupid step.

Any tips are welcome.

Thanks!

Beth




***********************************************
Beth Muramoto
Computer Resource Specialist
Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
Phone:  (510) 643-0203
Fax:  (510) 643-6239

The Formula for Success:  Underpromise, overdeliver.
                                - Tom Peters

You have to decide what your highest priorities are and have the courage to
say 'no' to other things."

                                -Stephen Covey

I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I have
of it.

                                -Thomas Jefferson

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Re: [Micronet] Wireless Printer set up using AirBears

Beth Muramoto
Thanks, Richard for the confirmation. I didn't think it was possible either and I've been "policing" to make sure that no one is using their own wireless routers because of the AirBears interference.  I just wasn't sure and the responses I've been getting, including yours, are confirming my understanding of it.

Thanks very much!

Beth


On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:17 PM, Richard DeShong wrote:

> When you install a wireless printer, it is acting as it's own access point,
> and creating a micro-lan with any computers nearby.  It is also potentially
> interfering with any AirBears access points in the area.
>
> To connect it to AirBears would mean that you are bridging the printers lan
> to the airbears system.  I don't think the access point in the printer is
> designed to do this.  I am also sure that it's not allowed.
> --
> Richard DeShong,  Systems Analyst
> Athletic Study Center,  U.C. Berkeley
> 164 Chavez Student Center,  Berkeley, CA 94720-4220
> 510-642-5123,  asc.berkeley.edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beth Muramoto Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 1:37 PM
>
> I'm probably missing something uber stupid, but is it possible to hook up a
> wireless printer, in this case a Brother HL2270DW  using AirBears?
>
> I know it can be done at home on personal wifi zones, but I haven't been
> successful at doing it here on campus. Maybe it's not allowed or like I
> said, maybe I'm missing some uber easy and stupid step.
>
> Any tips are welcome.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Beth
>
>
>
>
> ***********************************************
> Beth Muramoto
> Computer Resource Specialist
> Graduate School of Education
> University of California, Berkeley
> 1650 Tolman Hall
> Berkeley, CA 94720
> Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
> Phone:  (510) 643-0203
> Fax:  (510) 643-6239
>
> The Formula for Success:  Underpromise, overdeliver.
> - Tom Peters
>
> You have to decide what your highest priorities are and have the courage to
> say 'no' to other things."
>
> -Stephen Covey
>
> I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I have
> of it.
>
> -Thomas Jefferson
>
> ***********************************************
>
>
>
>
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Beth Muramoto
Computer Resource Specialist
Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
Phone:  (510) 643-0203
Fax:  (510) 643-6239

The Formula for Success:  Underpromise, overdeliver.
                                - Tom Peters

You have to decide what your highest priorities are and have the courage to say 'no' to other things."

                                -Stephen Covey

I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it.

                                -Thomas Jefferson

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Re: [Micronet] Wireless Printer set up using AirBears

Aron Roberts
In reply to this post by Richard DeShong-2
Two more data points:

Erik Klavon, a former campus networking maven, advised against using
wireless printers on AirBears networks in this September 2010 Micronet
post.

<http://micronet-at-uc-berkeley.840177.n3.nabble.com/Micronet-wireless-printer-with-airbears-td1599128.html#a1603618>

There's also a link to another discussion of this topic in his post.

As well, the AirBears FAQ also claims that a wireless printer may have
a "high impact" in interfering with reception on an AirBears wireless
network, unless its wireless "cart" (read: "card") is disabled:

http://ist.berkeley.edu/airbears/faqs

I literally don't know *anything* about this topic - am reporting
these two sightings as background material.

Aron Roberts
Information Systems and Technology

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Richard DeShong <[hidden email]> wrote:

> When you install a wireless printer, it is acting as it's own access point,
> and creating a micro-lan with any computers nearby.  It is also potentially
> interfering with any AirBears access points in the area.
>
> To connect it to AirBears would mean that you are bridging the printers lan
> to the airbears system.  I don't think the access point in the printer is
> designed to do this.  I am also sure that it's not allowed.
> --
> Richard DeShong,  Systems Analyst
> Athletic Study Center,  U.C. Berkeley
> 164 Chavez Student Center,  Berkeley, CA 94720-4220
> 510-642-5123,  asc.berkeley.edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beth Muramoto     Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 1:37 PM
>
> I'm probably missing something uber stupid, but is it possible to hook up a
> wireless printer, in this case a Brother HL2270DW  using AirBears?
>
> I know it can be done at home on personal wifi zones, but I haven't been
> successful at doing it here on campus. Maybe it's not allowed or like I
> said, maybe I'm missing some uber easy and stupid step.
>
> Any tips are welcome.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Beth
>
>
>
>
> ***********************************************
> Beth Muramoto
> Computer Resource Specialist
> Graduate School of Education
> University of California, Berkeley
> 1650 Tolman Hall
> Berkeley, CA 94720
> Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
> Phone:  (510) 643-0203
> Fax:  (510) 643-6239
>
> The Formula for Success:  Underpromise, overdeliver.
>                                - Tom Peters
>
> You have to decide what your highest priorities are and have the courage to
> say 'no' to other things."
>
>                                -Stephen Covey
>
> I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I have
> of it.
>
>                                -Thomas Jefferson
>
> ***********************************************
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Micronet] Wireless Printer set up using AirBears

Beth Muramoto
Thanks, Aron for the links. I appreciate them. I had my suspicions after failing to be able to set up a wifi printer set up a few times. I was seeking confirmation that it can't be done on AirBears as I had believed, but to also make sure that I wasn't missing something.

It comes up because people can do this set up at home on their local wifi set ups so they want to do the same here and I wanted to make sure I had an explanation as to why they couldn't.

I know that IP printing can be achieved through AirBears, but wasn't sure about wifi itself.

Thanks again.

Beth


On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Aron Roberts wrote:

> Two more data points:
>
> Erik Klavon, a former campus networking maven, advised against using
> wireless printers on AirBears networks in this September 2010 Micronet
> post.
>
> <http://micronet-at-uc-berkeley.840177.n3.nabble.com/Micronet-wireless-printer-with-airbears-td1599128.html#a1603618>
>
> There's also a link to another discussion of this topic in his post.
>
> As well, the AirBears FAQ also claims that a wireless printer may have
> a "high impact" in interfering with reception on an AirBears wireless
> network, unless its wireless "cart" (read: "card") is disabled:
>
> http://ist.berkeley.edu/airbears/faqs
>
> I literally don't know *anything* about this topic - am reporting
> these two sightings as background material.
>
> Aron Roberts
> Information Systems and Technology
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Richard DeShong <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> When you install a wireless printer, it is acting as it's own access point,
>> and creating a micro-lan with any computers nearby.  It is also potentially
>> interfering with any AirBears access points in the area.
>>
>> To connect it to AirBears would mean that you are bridging the printers lan
>> to the airbears system.  I don't think the access point in the printer is
>> designed to do this.  I am also sure that it's not allowed.
>> --
>> Richard DeShong,  Systems Analyst
>> Athletic Study Center,  U.C. Berkeley
>> 164 Chavez Student Center,  Berkeley, CA 94720-4220
>> 510-642-5123,  asc.berkeley.edu
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Beth Muramoto     Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 1:37 PM
>>
>> I'm probably missing something uber stupid, but is it possible to hook up a
>> wireless printer, in this case a Brother HL2270DW  using AirBears?
>>
>> I know it can be done at home on personal wifi zones, but I haven't been
>> successful at doing it here on campus. Maybe it's not allowed or like I
>> said, maybe I'm missing some uber easy and stupid step.
>>
>> Any tips are welcome.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Beth
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ***********************************************
>> Beth Muramoto
>> Computer Resource Specialist
>> Graduate School of Education
>> University of California, Berkeley
>> 1650 Tolman Hall
>> Berkeley, CA 94720
>> Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
>> Phone:  (510) 643-0203
>> Fax:  (510) 643-6239
>>
>> The Formula for Success:  Underpromise, overdeliver.
>>                                - Tom Peters
>>
>> You have to decide what your highest priorities are and have the courage to
>> say 'no' to other things."
>>
>>                                -Stephen Covey
>>
>> I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I have
>> of it.
>>
>>                                -Thomas Jefferson
>>
>> ***********************************************
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> visit the Micronet Web site:
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***********************************************
Beth Muramoto
Computer Resource Specialist
Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
Phone:  (510) 643-0203
Fax:  (510) 643-6239

The Formula for Success:  Underpromise, overdeliver.
                                - Tom Peters

You have to decide what your highest priorities are and have the courage to say 'no' to other things."

                                -Stephen Covey

I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it.

                                -Thomas Jefferson

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Re: [Micronet] Wireless Printer set up using AirBears

Isaac Orr-2
Beth,

I think that the previous posts that Aron found sum up the situation
pretty well.  There are a few issues that prevent a printer from working
well wirelessly with Airbears as things are today.

Some printers do WiFi by acting as an access point, and those can
interfere withe AirBears in your area, so that is not a good idea.

The other method is for a printer to associate with an existing Wifi
network (eg AirBears).  While this is possible, and you might get lucky
and make it work, you would most likely not be able to get the printer
to authenticate to the network, so your connectivity to the printer
would be limited.

Regards

iso


On 4/30/12 3:45 PM, Beth Muramoto wrote:

> Thanks, Aron for the links. I appreciate them. I had my suspicions
> after failing to be able to set up a wifi printer set up a few times.
> I was seeking confirmation that it can't be done on AirBears as I had
> believed, but to also make sure that I wasn't missing something.
>
> It comes up because people can do this set up at home on their local
> wifi set ups so they want to do the same here and I wanted to make
> sure I had an explanation as to why they couldn't.
>
> I know that IP printing can be achieved through AirBears, but wasn't
> sure about wifi itself.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Beth
>
>
> On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Aron Roberts wrote:
>
>> Two more data points:
>>
>> Erik Klavon, a former campus networking maven, advised against
>> using wireless printers on AirBears networks in this September 2010
>> Micronet post.
>>
>> <http://micronet-at-uc-berkeley.840177.n3.nabble.com/Micronet-wireless-printer-with-airbears-td1599128.html#a1603618>
>>
>>
>>
There's also a link to another discussion of this topic in his post.

>>
>> As well, the AirBears FAQ also claims that a wireless printer may
>> have a "high impact" in interfering with reception on an AirBears
>> wireless network, unless its wireless "cart" (read: "card") is
>> disabled:
>>
>> http://ist.berkeley.edu/airbears/faqs
>>
>> I literally don't know *anything* about this topic - am reporting
>> these two sightings as background material.
>>
>> Aron Roberts Information Systems and Technology
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Richard
>> DeShong<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>> When you install a wireless printer, it is acting as it's own
>>> access point, and creating a micro-lan with any computers nearby.
>>> It is also potentially interfering with any AirBears access
>>> points in the area.
>>>
>>> To connect it to AirBears would mean that you are bridging the
>>> printers lan to the airbears system.  I don't think the access
>>> point in the printer is designed to do this.  I am also sure that
>>> it's not allowed. -- Richard DeShong,  Systems Analyst Athletic
>>> Study Center,  U.C. Berkeley 164 Chavez Student Center,
>>> Berkeley, CA 94720-4220 510-642-5123,  asc.berkeley.edu
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Beth Muramoto     Sent: Monday,
>>> April 30, 2012 1:37 PM
>>>
>>> I'm probably missing something uber stupid, but is it possible to
>>> hook up a wireless printer, in this case a Brother HL2270DW
>>> using AirBears?
>>>
>>> I know it can be done at home on personal wifi zones, but I
>>> haven't been successful at doing it here on campus. Maybe it's
>>> not allowed or like I said, maybe I'm missing some uber easy and
>>> stupid step.
>>>
>>> Any tips are welcome.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Beth
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *********************************************** Beth Muramoto
>>> Computer Resource Specialist Graduate School of Education
>>> University of California, Berkeley 1650 Tolman Hall Berkeley, CA
>>> 94720 Email:  mailto:[hidden email] Phone:  (510)
>>> 643-0203 Fax:  (510) 643-6239
>>>
>>> The Formula for Success:  Underpromise, overdeliver. - Tom
>>> Peters
>>>
>>> You have to decide what your highest priorities are and have the
>>> courage to say 'no' to other things."
>>>
>>> -Stephen Covey
>>>
>>> I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the
>>> more I have of it.
>>>
>>> -Thomas Jefferson
>>>
>>> ***********************************************
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
> *********************************************** Beth Muramoto
> Computer Resource Specialist Graduate School of Education University
> of California, Berkeley 1650 Tolman Hall Berkeley, CA 94720 Email:
> mailto:[hidden email] Phone:  (510) 643-0203 Fax:  (510)
> 643-6239
>
> The Formula for Success:  Underpromise, overdeliver. - Tom Peters
>
> You have to decide what your highest priorities are and have the
> courage to say 'no' to other things."
>
> -Stephen Covey
>
> I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I
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>
> -Thomas Jefferson
>
> ***********************************************
>
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Re: [Micronet] Wireless Printer set up using AirBears

Richard DeShong-2
And keep in mind in response to those that says that "they do it at home"...
AirBears would be equivalent to a neighborhood wireless network, not a
personal home network.  Further, AirBears was designed to get personal
devices out to the internet, not to create LAN's.

So if you want to create a LAN and Access Point for a printer, then talk
with IST about doing that.  They can determine the correct channel to use,
so as not to interfere with the AirBears devices in the area.  You might
need to buy an external wireless router that has more config options than
the typical internal router on a printer.
--
Richard DeShong,  Systems Analyst
Athletic Study Center,  U.C. Berkeley


From: Isaac Orr Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:31 AM

Beth,
I think that the previous posts that Aron found sum up the situation pretty
well.  There are a few issues that prevent a printer from working well
wirelessly with Airbears as things are today.
Some printers do WiFi by acting as an access point, and those can interfere
withe AirBears in your area, so that is not a good idea.
The other method is for a printer to associate with an existing Wifi network
(eg AirBears).  While this is possible, and you might get lucky and make it
work, you would most likely not be able to get the printer to authenticate
to the network, so your connectivity to the printer would be limited.
Regards
iso


On 4/30/12 3:45 PM, Beth Muramoto wrote:

> Thanks, Aron for the links. I appreciate them. I had my suspicions
> after failing to be able to set up a wifi printer set up a few times.
> I was seeking confirmation that it can't be done on AirBears as I had
> believed, but to also make sure that I wasn't missing something.
>
> It comes up because people can do this set up at home on their local
> wifi set ups so they want to do the same here and I wanted to make
> sure I had an explanation as to why they couldn't.
>
> I know that IP printing can be achieved through AirBears, but wasn't
> sure about wifi itself.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Beth
>
>
> On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Aron Roberts wrote:
>
>> Two more data points:
>>
>> Erik Klavon, a former campus networking maven, advised against using
>> wireless printers on AirBears networks in this September 2010
>> Micronet post.
>>
>> <http://micronet-at-uc-berkeley.840177.n3.nabble.com/Micronet-wireles
>> s-printer-with-airbears-td1599128.html#a1603618>
>>
>>
>>
There's also a link to another discussion of this topic in his post.

>>
>> As well, the AirBears FAQ also claims that a wireless printer may
>> have a "high impact" in interfering with reception on an AirBears
>> wireless network, unless its wireless "cart" (read: "card") is
>> disabled:
>>
>> http://ist.berkeley.edu/airbears/faqs
>>
>> I literally don't know *anything* about this topic - am reporting
>> these two sightings as background material.
>>
>> Aron Roberts Information Systems and Technology
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Richard
>> DeShong<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>> When you install a wireless printer, it is acting as it's own access
>>> point, and creating a micro-lan with any computers nearby.
>>> It is also potentially interfering with any AirBears access points
>>> in the area.
>>>
>>> To connect it to AirBears would mean that you are bridging the
>>> printers lan to the airbears system.  I don't think the access point
>>> in the printer is designed to do this.  I am also sure that it's not
>>> allowed. -- Richard DeShong,  Systems Analyst Athletic Study Center,  
>>> U.C. Berkeley 164 Chavez Student Center, Berkeley, CA 94720-4220
>>> 510-642-5123,  asc.berkeley.edu
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Beth Muramoto     Sent: Monday,
>>> April 30, 2012 1:37 PM
>>>
>>> I'm probably missing something uber stupid, but is it possible to
>>> hook up a wireless printer, in this case a Brother HL2270DW using
>>> AirBears?
>>>
>>> I know it can be done at home on personal wifi zones, but I haven't
>>> been successful at doing it here on campus. Maybe it's not allowed
>>> or like I said, maybe I'm missing some uber easy and stupid step.
>>>
>>> Any tips are welcome.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Beth
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *********************************************** Beth Muramoto
>>> Computer Resource Specialist Graduate School of Education University
>>> of California, Berkeley 1650 Tolman Hall Berkeley, CA
>>> 94720 Email:  mailto:[hidden email] Phone:  (510)
>>> 643-0203 Fax:  (510) 643-6239
>>>
>>> The Formula for Success:  Underpromise, overdeliver. - Tom Peters
>>>
>>> You have to decide what your highest priorities are and have the
>>> courage to say 'no' to other things."
>>>
>>> -Stephen Covey
>>>
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Re: [Micronet] Wireless Printer set up using AirBears

Beth Muramoto
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Thanks for the information, Isaac. Sounds like a no-go which I'm okay with. I wanted to have a honest and accurate answer for anyone asking why they couldn't do wireless printing over AirBears.

Beth


On May 1, 2012, at 8:30 AM, Isaac Orr wrote:

> Beth,
>
> I think that the previous posts that Aron found sum up the situation
> pretty well.  There are a few issues that prevent a printer from working
> well wirelessly with Airbears as things are today.
>
> Some printers do WiFi by acting as an access point, and those can
> interfere withe AirBears in your area, so that is not a good idea.
>
> The other method is for a printer to associate with an existing Wifi
> network (eg AirBears).  While this is possible, and you might get lucky
> and make it work, you would most likely not be able to get the printer
> to authenticate to the network, so your connectivity to the printer
> would be limited.
>
> Regards
>
> iso
>
>
> On 4/30/12 3:45 PM, Beth Muramoto wrote:
>> Thanks, Aron for the links. I appreciate them. I had my suspicions
>> after failing to be able to set up a wifi printer set up a few times.
>> I was seeking confirmation that it can't be done on AirBears as I had
>> believed, but to also make sure that I wasn't missing something.
>>
>> It comes up because people can do this set up at home on their local
>> wifi set ups so they want to do the same here and I wanted to make
>> sure I had an explanation as to why they couldn't.
>>
>> I know that IP printing can be achieved through AirBears, but wasn't
>> sure about wifi itself.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> Beth
>>
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Aron Roberts wrote:
>>
>>> Two more data points:
>>>
>>> Erik Klavon, a former campus networking maven, advised against
>>> using wireless printers on AirBears networks in this September 2010
>>> Micronet post.
>>>
>>> <http://micronet-at-uc-berkeley.840177.n3.nabble.com/Micronet-wireless-printer-with-airbears-td1599128.html#a1603618>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> There's also a link to another discussion of this topic in his post.
>>>
>>> As well, the AirBears FAQ also claims that a wireless printer may
>>> have a "high impact" in interfering with reception on an AirBears
>>> wireless network, unless its wireless "cart" (read: "card") is
>>> disabled:
>>>
>>> http://ist.berkeley.edu/airbears/faqs
>>>
>>> I literally don't know *anything* about this topic - am reporting
>>> these two sightings as background material.
>>>
>>> Aron Roberts Information Systems and Technology
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Richard
>>> DeShong<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>>> When you install a wireless printer, it is acting as it's own
>>>> access point, and creating a micro-lan with any computers nearby.
>>>> It is also potentially interfering with any AirBears access
>>>> points in the area.
>>>>
>>>> To connect it to AirBears would mean that you are bridging the
>>>> printers lan to the airbears system.  I don't think the access
>>>> point in the printer is designed to do this.  I am also sure that
>>>> it's not allowed. -- Richard DeShong,  Systems Analyst Athletic
>>>> Study Center,  U.C. Berkeley 164 Chavez Student Center,
>>>> Berkeley, CA 94720-4220 510-642-5123,  asc.berkeley.edu
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Beth Muramoto     Sent: Monday,
>>>> April 30, 2012 1:37 PM
>>>>
>>>> I'm probably missing something uber stupid, but is it possible to
>>>> hook up a wireless printer, in this case a Brother HL2270DW
>>>> using AirBears?
>>>>
>>>> I know it can be done at home on personal wifi zones, but I
>>>> haven't been successful at doing it here on campus. Maybe it's
>>>> not allowed or like I said, maybe I'm missing some uber easy and
>>>> stupid step.
>>>>
>>>> Any tips are welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Beth
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *********************************************** Beth Muramoto
>>>> Computer Resource Specialist Graduate School of Education
>>>> University of California, Berkeley 1650 Tolman Hall Berkeley, CA
>>>> 94720 Email:  mailto:[hidden email] Phone:  (510)
>>>> 643-0203 Fax:  (510) 643-6239
>>>>
>>>> The Formula for Success:  Underpromise, overdeliver. - Tom
>>>> Peters
>>>>
>>>> You have to decide what your highest priorities are and have the
>>>> courage to say 'no' to other things."
>>>>
>>>> -Stephen Covey
>>>>
>>>> I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the
>>>> more I have of it.
>>>>
>>>> -Thomas Jefferson
>>>>
>>>> ***********************************************
>>>>
>>>>
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>> *********************************************** Beth Muramoto
>> Computer Resource Specialist Graduate School of Education University
>> of California, Berkeley 1650 Tolman Hall Berkeley, CA 94720 Email:
>> mailto:[hidden email] Phone:  (510) 643-0203 Fax:  (510)
>> 643-6239
>>
>> The Formula for Success:  Underpromise, overdeliver. - Tom Peters
>>
>> You have to decide what your highest priorities are and have the
>> courage to say 'no' to other things."
>>
>> -Stephen Covey
>>
>> I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I
>> have of it.
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Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
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The Formula for Success:  Underpromise, overdeliver.
                                - Tom Peters

You have to decide what your highest priorities are and have the courage to say 'no' to other things."

                                -Stephen Covey

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Re: [Micronet] Wireless Printer set up using AirBears

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On 5/1/12 10:29 AM, Richard DeShong wrote:
> And keep in mind in response to those that says that "they do it at home"...
> AirBears would be equivalent to a neighborhood wireless network, not a
> personal home network.  Further, AirBears was designed to get personal
> devices out to the internet, not to create LAN's.
>

It's also very true that in most corporate environments you would not be
able to do things the way you do at home on the wireless network.

> So if you want to create a LAN and Access Point for a printer, then talk
> with IST about doing that.  They can determine the correct channel to use,
> so as not to interfere with the AirBears devices in the area.  You might
> need to buy an external wireless router that has more config options than
> the typical internal router on a printer.

While it is possible to do something like this, the cases where we would
do so are limited.  If something can reasonably be done over the wired
network we are likely to prefer that this is how it is done, rather than
making specialized changes to our AirBears setup.

We've made rare exceptions for things like ticket scanners and the like
where the device is mobile and clearly wireless is a necessary component
of the solution.  Printers don't tend to be that mobile.

Regards

iso


 
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