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[Micronet] how to send email from bMail as the Calmail Email list address

Joyce Martin
This is rather urgent, so that is why i am posting to this list hoping for an answer right away.
 
We migrated to bMail.
 
Now - some users have permissions to CALMAIL mail lists, and send emails from that list. They do not send emails to a mail list from their own individual account/address - they send emails as the mail list address.
 
For example:  JM can send emails as building_[hidden email]  (not a real address).
 
What does a person do in bMail, in order to send an email as the email list address?
 
thx for any info.
 
 
 
 

 
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Re: [Micronet] how to send email from bMail as the Calmail Email list address

Beth Muramoto
Joyce,

I'm assuming you're talking about departmental accounts. Who owns them? For example, I own [hidden email] which means I'll need to create a google key for it and grant access to it to another user, say Jane Smith.

The important information is who the owner of the departmental list.

Beth

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Joyce MARTIN <[hidden email]> wrote:
This is rather urgent, so that is why i am posting to this list hoping for an answer right away.
 
We migrated to bMail.
 
Now - some users have permissions to CALMAIL mail lists, and send emails from that list. They do not send emails to a mail list from their own individual account/address - they send emails as the mail list address.
 
For example:  JM can send emails as building_[hidden email]  (not a real address).
 
What does a person do in bMail, in order to send an email as the email list address?
 
thx for any info.
 
 
 
 


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Graduate School of Education
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Re: [Micronet] how to send email from bMail as the Calmail Email list address

Joyce Martin
Hi Beth,
I'm not referring to the dept accounts, but to the Mail lists one can create in calmail.   
 
thanks~
Joyce

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Beth J MURAMOTO <[hidden email]> wrote:
Joyce,

I'm assuming you're talking about departmental accounts. Who owns them? For example, I own [hidden email] which means I'll need to create a google key for it and grant access to it to another user, say Jane Smith.

The important information is who the owner of the departmental list.

Beth

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Joyce MARTIN <[hidden email]> wrote:
This is rather urgent, so that is why i am posting to this list hoping for an answer right away.
 
We migrated to bMail.
 
Now - some users have permissions to CALMAIL mail lists, and send emails from that list. They do not send emails to a mail list from their own individual account/address - they send emails as the mail list address.
 
For example:  JM can send emails as building_[hidden email]  (not a real address).
 
What does a person do in bMail, in order to send an email as the email list address?
 
thx for any info.
 
 
 
 


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***********************************************
Beth Muramoto
Computer Resource Specialist
Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
Phone:  (510) 643-0203 
Fax:  (510) 643-6239

The Formula for Success:  Underpromise, overdeliver.
- Tom Peters

You have to decide what your highest priorities are and have the courage to say 'no' to other things." 

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-Coleman Cox

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Re: [Micronet] how to send email from bMail as the Calmail Email list address

Aron Roberts
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This may or may not be what you need, Joyce, but you can send mail
'from' any address you own via bMail / Gmail, even if your address is
on another host, such as lists.berkeley.edu.

http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=22370

In that case, you could likely set up your bMail/Gmail account so you
could send selected email messages from the list owner's role address.
 That address is [hidden email], where 'listname'
is the actual name of your list ... and in your case, would thus be
[hidden email].

Is the actual concern - the actual use case behind your question - to
have an 'authoritative' message sent out by the list's owner?  If so,
using the list owner role address would seem entirely appropriate.
And the Gmail help document above might well describe how you can do
that.

If instead, or as well, your intent is to ensure that any responses
are sent back to the list itself, rather than to the list owner,
here's a bMail/Gmail help document on how to set the reply-to address
for any specific message:

http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=7991

You could also presumably combine both of these: sending email from
the owner's role address, [hidden email] and
setting the reply-to address to the list itself,
[hidden email].

(Note: I haven't yet tried this first-hand, so your mileage may vary :-)

Aron Roberts
IST-Research Technologies

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Joyce MARTIN <[hidden email]> wrote:

> This is rather urgent, so that is why i am posting to this list hoping for
> an answer right away.
>
> We migrated to bMail.
>
> Now - some users have permissions to CALMAIL mail lists, and send emails
> from that list. They do not send emails to a mail list from their own
> individual account/address - they send emails as the mail list address.
>
> For example:  JM can send emails as [hidden email]  (not
> a real address).
>
> What does a person do in bMail, in order to send an email as the email list
> address?
>
> thx for any info.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Micronet] how to send email from bMail as the Calmail Email list address

Aron Roberts
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Aron Roberts
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> This may or may not be what you need, Joyce, but you can send mail
> 'from' any address you own via bMail / Gmail, even if your address is
> on another host, such as lists.berkeley.edu.

Restating the above for clarity:

Via your bMail / Gmail account, you can send email messages whose
'From:' address is that of some any other email account you own - even
if that account happens to be on a host other than Gmail, such as
lists.berkeley.edu.

>
> http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=22370
>
> In that case, you could likely set up your bMail/Gmail account so you
> could send selected email messages from the list owner's role address.
>  That address is [hidden email], where 'listname'
> is the actual name of your list ... and in your case, would thus be
> [hidden email].
>
> Is the actual concern - the actual use case behind your question - to
> have an 'authoritative' message sent out by the list's owner?  If so,
> using the list owner role address would seem entirely appropriate.
> And the Gmail help document above might well describe how you can do
> that.
>
> If instead, or as well, your intent is to ensure that any responses
> are sent back to the list itself, rather than to the list owner,
> here's a bMail/Gmail help document on how to set the reply-to address
> for any specific message:
>
> http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=7991
>
> You could also presumably combine both of these: sending email from
> the owner's role address, [hidden email] and
> setting the reply-to address to the list itself,
> [hidden email].
>
> (Note: I haven't yet tried this first-hand, so your mileage may vary :-)
>
> Aron Roberts
> IST-Research Technologies
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Joyce MARTIN <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> This is rather urgent, so that is why i am posting to this list hoping for
>> an answer right away.
>>
>> We migrated to bMail.
>>
>> Now - some users have permissions to CALMAIL mail lists, and send emails
>> from that list. They do not send emails to a mail list from their own
>> individual account/address - they send emails as the mail list address.
>>
>> For example:  JM can send emails as [hidden email]  (not
>> a real address).
>>
>> What does a person do in bMail, in order to send an email as the email list
>> address?
>>
>> thx for any info.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> To learn more about Micronet, including how to subscribe to or unsubscribe
>> from its mailing list and how to find out about upcoming meetings, please
>> visit the Micronet Web site:
>>
>> http://micronet.berkeley.edu
>>
>> Messages you send to this mailing list are public and world-viewable, and
>> the list's archives can be browsed and searched on the Internet.  This means
>> these messages can be viewed by (among others) your bosses, prospective
>> employers, and people who have known you in the past.
>>

 
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Re: [Micronet] how to send email from bMail as the Calmail Email list address

Joyce Martin
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Hi Aron,
I think this provides alot of answers - but it's so confusing I'm not really clear about how bMail handles Calmail mail lists.
 
One of our enterprising users did just this as you noted in Google:
  • Click the gear icon in the upper right, then select Settings.
  1. Select the Accounts and Import tab (or Accounts tab, if you're using Google Apps).
  2. Under Send mail as, click Add another email address.
  3. In the 'Email address' field, enter your name and alternate email address.
  4. Choose one of two options:
    • Use Gmail's servers to send your mail (this is easier to set up)
    • Use your other email provider's SMTP servers (we recommend this option for professional mail accounts or domains). Note for Google Apps users: Depending on your domain2 type, this feature may be disabled by default. Talk to your administrator if you have any questions.

If you choose to use Gmail's servers:

6. Click Next Step >> and then click Send Verification. Gmail will send a verification message to your other email address to confirm that you own it.
7. Open your other account and either click the link in the message Gmail sent or enter the confirmation code in the Accounts section of your Gmail settings.
However, she does not OWN the email list accounts she adds.  What are the ramifications for this?  I think everyone in their group did this for their mail list addresses.  And then, her boss received a bunch of emails  saying:   "You have requested to add [hidden email] to your UC Berkeley account..." etc.  The links provided in all of these emails were bad (didn't work).
 
 
PS.  and bMail for some odd reason keeps changing my font size throughout my email!
 
 
 
 
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Aron Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:
 
This may or may not be what you need, Joyce, but you can send mail
'from' any address you own via bMail / Gmail, even if your address is
on another host, such as lists.berkeley.edu.
 
 
In that case, you could likely set up your bMail/Gmail account so you
could send selected email messages from the list owner's role address.
 That address is [hidden email], where 'listname'
is the actual name of your list ... and in your case, would thus be
 
Is the actual concern - the actual use case behind your question - to
have an 'authoritative' message sent out by the list's owner?  If so,
using the list owner role address would seem entirely appropriate.
And the Gmail help document above might well describe how you can do
that.
 
If instead, or as well, your intent is to ensure that any responses
are sent back to the list itself, rather than to the list owner,
here's a bMail/Gmail help document on how to set the reply-to address
for any specific message:
 
 
You could also presumably combine both of these: sending email from
the owner's role address, [hidden email] and
setting the reply-to address to the list itself,
 
(Note: I haven't yet tried this first-hand, so your mileage may vary :-)
 
Aron Roberts
IST-Research Technologies
 
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Joyce MARTIN <[hidden email]> wrote:
> This is rather urgent, so that is why i am posting to this list hoping for
> an answer right away.
>
> We migrated to bMail.
>
> Now - some users have permissions to CALMAIL mail lists, and send emails
> from that list. They do not send emails to a mail list from their own
> individual account/address - they send emails as the mail list address.
>
> For example:  JM can send emails as [hidden email]  (not
> a real address).
>
> What does a person do in bMail, in order to send an email as the email list
> address?
>
> thx for any info.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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> the list's archives can be browsed and searched on the Internet.  This means
> these messages can be viewed by (among others) your bosses, prospective
> employers, and people who have known you in the past.
>
 
 

 
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Re: [Micronet] how to send email from bMail as the Calmail Email list address

Aron Roberts
> However, she does not OWN the email list accounts she adds ...

Only an owner of an email address can send email 'from' that address in bMail / Gmail.

If you have a CalMail mailing list whose name is, for instance, [hidden email], there's a built-in role address for the owner of that list, [hidden email].  And you can send mail from that list owner address, if you wish.

On the CalMail home page, when you:
* Select 'Manage Your Mailing Lists'
* Authenticate (if requested) via CalNet
* Click the name of a specific list you manage under "Manage Your Mailing Lists"

You can then view and edit who 'owns' the list, in the 'Owner' section on the page you display by selecting Manage Your Mailing Lists->(listname)->Administration, in the left-sidebar.

Although once again I haven't tried this first-hand, it seems probable that anyone with an email address in that 'Owner' section can set up their bMail / Gmail account to send mail as '[hidden email]', via the instructions in:

http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=22370

It doesn't as much sense, IMHO, to try to send mail 'from' [hidden email], as it is to send mail 'from' [hidden email].  The former is a list address - a broadcast address, if you will, for posting to the entire list - while the latter is an email address for a person (or persons) with the specific role of administering the list.  The 'list' can't - in any realistic sense - send email to itself, whereas a list owner or administrator can certainly send email to a list - that is, to its members - from their role-based address.

Aron

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Joyce MARTIN <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Aron,
I think this provides alot of answers - but it's so confusing I'm not really clear about how bMail handles Calmail mail lists.
 
One of our enterprising users did just this as you noted in Google:
  • Click the gear icon in the upper right, then select Settings.
  1. Select the Accounts and Import tab (or Accounts tab, if you're using Google Apps).
  2. Under Send mail as, click Add another email address.
  3. In the 'Email address' field, enter your name and alternate email address.
  4. Choose one of two options:
    • Use Gmail's servers to send your mail (this is easier to set up)
    • Use your other email provider's SMTP servers (we recommend this option for professional mail accounts or domains). Note for Google Apps users: Depending on your domain2 type, this feature may be disabled by default. Talk to your administrator if you have any questions.

If you choose to use Gmail's servers:

6. Click Next Step >> and then click Send Verification. Gmail will send a verification message to your other email address to confirm that you own it.
7. Open your other account and either click the link in the message Gmail sent or enter the confirmation code in the Accounts section of your Gmail settings.
However, she does not OWN the email list accounts she adds.  What are the ramifications for this?  I think everyone in their group did this for their mail list addresses.  And then, her boss received a bunch of emails  saying:   "You have requested to add [hidden email] to your UC Berkeley account..." etc.  The links provided in all of these emails were bad (didn't work).
 
 
PS.  and bMail for some odd reason keeps changing my font size throughout my email!
 
 
 
 
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Aron Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:
 
This may or may not be what you need, Joyce, but you can send mail
'from' any address you own via bMail / Gmail, even if your address is
on another host, such as lists.berkeley.edu.
 
 
In that case, you could likely set up your bMail/Gmail account so you
could send selected email messages from the list owner's role address.
 That address is [hidden email], where 'listname'
is the actual name of your list ... and in your case, would thus be
 
Is the actual concern - the actual use case behind your question - to
have an 'authoritative' message sent out by the list's owner?  If so,
using the list owner role address would seem entirely appropriate.
And the Gmail help document above might well describe how you can do
that.
 
If instead, or as well, your intent is to ensure that any responses
are sent back to the list itself, rather than to the list owner,
here's a bMail/Gmail help document on how to set the reply-to address
for any specific message:
 
 
You could also presumably combine both of these: sending email from
the owner's role address, [hidden email] and
setting the reply-to address to the list itself,
 
(Note: I haven't yet tried this first-hand, so your mileage may vary :-)
 
Aron Roberts
IST-Research Technologies
 
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Joyce MARTIN <[hidden email]> wrote:
> This is rather urgent, so that is why i am posting to this list hoping for
> an answer right away.
>
> We migrated to bMail.
>
> Now - some users have permissions to CALMAIL mail lists, and send emails
> from that list. They do not send emails to a mail list from their own
> individual account/address - they send emails as the mail list address.
>
> For example:  JM can send emails as [hidden email]  (not
> a real address).
>
> What does a person do in bMail, in order to send an email as the email list
> address?
>
> thx for any info.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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