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Beth Muramoto
I hope it's okay to piggyback on this email.

We bought Dragon Dictate for the Mac (with their microphone included) for two users here. For context, both of them are using iMacs using Mountain Lion.

I've been trying to make one of them work, but to no avail. I can launch Dictate (it also did an update), created a profile, etc. I have the Microphone set for Line In, which I'm not sure is correct, but I now can't seem to change it. I haven't tried making another profile which may be the solution for that, but I have to be honest, I don't know what the right input choice is. While I did the installation, no other input seemed to work except Line In. I've tried unplugging the Microphone into other USB ports, but it doesn't seem to be responding so not surprisingly the Microphone set up goes nowhere. We've recited the words to train it, but nothing works. I also can't seem to make Manual Gain or another setting work to adjust the sound.

I'm at the point where I don't know what else to try and thought I'd mine the expertise here to either confirm my next steps (create a new profile or reinstall the software) or hope that there is an easy step I missed that I can try. The instructions were simple, but I seemed to have managed to make the simple complicated. In other words, messed up what should have been an easy set up.

Thanks for any suggestions. They are all welcome.

Beth




On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Bruce Satow <[hidden email]> wrote:
Many moons ago I set up the Dragon Naturally speaking software on a PC for a sight impaired researcher.   He wanted to use it to read and compose email as well as Word documents.  

It was difficult at that time, because it required the user to train the software to recognize the way he pronounced and read words.  For example, chair instead of cheer, or wok instead of walk, etc. 

The difficult part of the training?  

Since the user was sight impaired he couldn't read the paragraph from the manual ,  or choose which word he was speaking when the software displayed multiple word choices on the computer monitor.

That was many, many, many, years ago.  I assume that the technology has vastly improved.




On 11/8/2013 11:50 AM, Sean Michael McMahon wrote:
Dragon Dictation software has been a standard dictation software that's been around for quite some time, I'm sure the iPad version should be great for your needs. It's a free app, I'm going to try it as well, see how it works. Let us know how functional it is in the field if you end up trying it and using it!


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Ian Crew <[hidden email]> wrote:
Well, there's the built-in speech recognition (tap the mic to the left of the space bar on the keyboard), which I find works pretty well.  There's also a 'Dragon Dictation' app from the folks that make Dragon Naturally Speaking, but I don't know much about that.  You can also get a bluetooth-based keyboard cover for the iPad (just google for "iPad keyboard cover"--there are tons), which would give you a physical keyboard, yet still remain much lighter than a MacBook...

Hope that helps,

Ian

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 7, 2013, at 6:25 PM, Glenn Robertson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hello Micronetters,
> Is anyone aware of a voice recognition app for the iPad that would allow the input of comments to a Word document? This app would eliminate the need of an external "real" keyboard. The goal is to avoid carrying the heavier MacBook when traveling.
> Thanks in advance,
> gr
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University of California, Berkeley
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Re: [Micronet] voice recognition app(s) for iPad - Dragon Dictate for Mac?

Sean McMahon
Hi Beth,

Line In usually refers to a direct audio input. It sounds like your microphone is a USB microphone, so that when it is plugged in you should see the microphone in the audio settings as a USB input. I would ask what the brand and model of microphone you have is, and check to see whether there is any software that needs to be installed in order for the microphone to function properly. Even with Macs it is sometimes necessary to install drivers or software along with microphones, webcams, etc. If the microphone is connected properly you should be able to use it with other applications or the OS software.

Hope that helps.

-Sean


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Beth J MURAMOTO <[hidden email]> wrote:
I hope it's okay to piggyback on this email.

We bought Dragon Dictate for the Mac (with their microphone included) for two users here. For context, both of them are using iMacs using Mountain Lion.

I've been trying to make one of them work, but to no avail. I can launch Dictate (it also did an update), created a profile, etc. I have the Microphone set for Line In, which I'm not sure is correct, but I now can't seem to change it. I haven't tried making another profile which may be the solution for that, but I have to be honest, I don't know what the right input choice is. While I did the installation, no other input seemed to work except Line In. I've tried unplugging the Microphone into other USB ports, but it doesn't seem to be responding so not surprisingly the Microphone set up goes nowhere. We've recited the words to train it, but nothing works. I also can't seem to make Manual Gain or another setting work to adjust the sound.

I'm at the point where I don't know what else to try and thought I'd mine the expertise here to either confirm my next steps (create a new profile or reinstall the software) or hope that there is an easy step I missed that I can try. The instructions were simple, but I seemed to have managed to make the simple complicated. In other words, messed up what should have been an easy set up.

Thanks for any suggestions. They are all welcome.

Beth


 
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Re: [Micronet] voice recognition app(s) for iPad - Dragon Dictate for Mac?

Beth Muramoto
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Thank you to everyone with their help and suggestions especially Duane, Sean and David who helped me to have my "duh" moment by having me check System Preferences to make sure that I had chosen the USB microphone choice. Once I did that, Dictation worked excellently! Problem solved.

As always, I supremely appreciate the collaborative help and contributions I get here and the kindly lack of recrimination for missing something so obvious.

Thanks again.

Beth


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Duane P. Straub <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Beth,
If it is a USB mic, I expect you'll see an input option for USB audio.
If you don't see that input, maybe you need a USB audio driver for the
mic. You're looking at "Input" in the Sound systems prefs, right?

I haven't used dragon, but I seem to recall MacSpeech having a
selection within the application as well and they both needed to be
set the same (that was years ago).

Line in is the 1/8 inch jack, same size as iPhone earbuds, for instance.

Best,
D

On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Beth J MURAMOTO <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I hope it's okay to piggyback on this email.
>
> We bought Dragon Dictate for the Mac (with their microphone included) for
> two users here. For context, both of them are using iMacs using Mountain
> Lion.
>
> I've been trying to make one of them work, but to no avail. I can launch
> Dictate (it also did an update), created a profile, etc. I have the
> Microphone set for Line In, which I'm not sure is correct, but I now can't
> seem to change it. I haven't tried making another profile which may be the
> solution for that, but I have to be honest, I don't know what the right
> input choice is. While I did the installation, no other input seemed to work
> except Line In. I've tried unplugging the Microphone into other USB ports,
> but it doesn't seem to be responding so not surprisingly the Microphone set
> up goes nowhere. We've recited the words to train it, but nothing works. I
> also can't seem to make Manual Gain or another setting work to adjust the
> sound.
>
> I'm at the point where I don't know what else to try and thought I'd mine
> the expertise here to either confirm my next steps (create a new profile or
> reinstall the software) or hope that there is an easy step I missed that I
> can try. The instructions were simple, but I seemed to have managed to make
> the simple complicated. In other words, messed up what should have been an
> easy set up.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions. They are all welcome.
>
> Beth
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Bruce Satow <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Many moons ago I set up the Dragon Naturally speaking software on a PC for
>> a sight impaired researcher.   He wanted to use it to read and compose email
>> as well as Word documents.
>>
>> It was difficult at that time, because it required the user to train the
>> software to recognize the way he pronounced and read words.  For example,
>> chair instead of cheer, or wok instead of walk, etc.
>>
>> The difficult part of the training?
>>
>> Since the user was sight impaired he couldn't read the paragraph from the
>> manual ,  or choose which word he was speaking when the software displayed
>> multiple word choices on the computer monitor.
>>
>> That was many, many, many, years ago.  I assume that the technology has
>> vastly improved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/8/2013 11:50 AM, Sean Michael McMahon wrote:
>>
>> Dragon Dictation software has been a standard dictation software that's
>> been around for quite some time, I'm sure the iPad version should be great
>> for your needs. It's a free app, I'm going to try it as well, see how it
>> works. Let us know how functional it is in the field if you end up trying it
>> and using it!
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Ian Crew <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, there's the built-in speech recognition (tap the mic to the left of
>>> the space bar on the keyboard), which I find works pretty well.  There's
>>> also a 'Dragon Dictation' app from the folks that make Dragon Naturally
>>> Speaking, but I don't know much about that.  You can also get a
>>> bluetooth-based keyboard cover for the iPad (just google for "iPad keyboard
>>> cover"--there are tons), which would give you a physical keyboard, yet still
>>> remain much lighter than a MacBook...
>>>
>>> Hope that helps,
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> > On Nov 7, 2013, at 6:25 PM, Glenn Robertson <[hidden email]>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hello Micronetters,
>>> > Is anyone aware of a voice recognition app for the iPad that would
>>> > allow the input of comments to a Word document? This app would eliminate the
>>> > need of an external "real" keyboard. The goal is to avoid carrying the
>>> > heavier MacBook when traveling.
>>> > Thanks in advance,
>>> > gr
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Computer Resource Specialist
>>> > African American Studies, Ethnic Studies, Gender & Women's Studies
>>> > University of California, Berkeley
>>> > Phone: (510) 423-5103
>>> >
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>>
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>> Computer Resource Specialist
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>> employers, and people who have known you in the past.
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>>
>> --
>>
>> Bruce Satow
>> System Administrator
>> University of California at Berkeley
>> Space Sciences Laboratory
>> 7 Gauss Way
>> Berkeley, California 94720-7450
>> (510) 643-2348
>>
>> Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes
>>
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> Graduate School of Education
> University of California, Berkeley
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> blunders and absurdities have crept in – forget them as soon as you can.
> Tomorrow is a new day. You shall begin it serenely and with too high a
> spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense.”
>
>                             -Emerson
>
> “Kind words do not cost much yet they accomplish much.”
>
>                             -Blaise Pascal
>
> You have to decide what your highest priorities are and have the courage to
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Beth Muramoto
Computer Resource Specialist
Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:[hidden email]
Phone:  (510) 643-0203 
Fax:  (510) 643-6239

“Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities have crept in – forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day. You shall begin it serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense.”

                            -Emerson

“Kind words do not cost much yet they accomplish much.” 

                            -Blaise Pascal

You have to decide what your highest priorities are and have the courage to say 'no' to other things." 

-Stephen Covey

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